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Boeing rule (lemmy.world)
submitted 12 hours ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago) by SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world to c/196@lemmy.world
 

And their planes made with scrap parts are still flying around.

Edit: A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy, reminds me of an article i read this week.

https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/657978/reddit-ai-experiment-banned

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

The risk/reward analysis goes against assassinating the man. Despite prevailing opinions on executives around here, they're not fucking stupid, especially at the level of one who could order a hit. Even if several were involved for plausible deniability, they would all foresee the circular firing squad in the event murder came to light.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 27 minutes ago

Seems like the risk paid off pretty well considering he was testifying about scrap parts in their planes and none of Boeings planes were grounded or inspected as a result.

[–] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So what now we like conspiracy theories when they suit us?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Chat,

Did the Boeing whistleblower who deliberately told his family and friends that he wasn't suicidal commit suicide?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

What about tha other one a few weeks off from that one?

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 6 points 5 hours ago

Well shit, that doctor who phrase about the human super power of forgetting rings even true day by day

[–] CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de 180 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I mean, fuck Boeing and the death still seems suspicious. But to claim that there was no police investigation is just lying. Suspect a cover-up or frame or whatever if you want, but seems like there was a pretty thorough investigation: https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/05/18/police-release-investigation-report-boeing-whistleblower-death/

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

An unpopular opinion, but I'm not buying a conspiracy either. The guy wanted to hurt Boeing, had just finished testifying and saw the writing on the wall that Boeing was going to walk, and decided to kill himself as a last stab at bringing attention to it. Worked like a charm too.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It’s only unpopular because every time someone dies that’s even tangentially associated with some corporate fuckery the internet instantly calls it an assassination. It’s absolutely stupid, but the hive mind seems to be geared to desperately want everything to be a conspiracy. No better than the conservatives making vaccines a conspiracy.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

If only we had the refrence of past experiences to better predict how corporations act in the future.

Chiquita banana hired paramilitary death squads to secure their bananas and they were never punished.

The bigger conspiracy nut theory is ignoring observable reality to make corpos the good guys.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago

Don’t put words in my mouth.

In no way shape or form do I view corporations as “good guys”. They are greedy, destructive on multiple levels, self-serving, cold, and often straight up evil.

Nobody here has observed shit except a someone died associated with a court case against a corporation. Everything here calling it a conspiracy is conjecture and made up opinion.

The hiring of paramilitary death squads and what banana republics are is a completely different and tragic issue that extends far beyond what a single “hit” on an individual is.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

Equating whistleblowers being killed to vaccine conspiracies shows how well people have been brainwashed into state obedience. Any narrative goes.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

Evaluating everything as a conspiracy shows how well people have become incapable of critical thinking and applying cold logic and skepticism to both sides of the equation. Any narrative goes.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

CIA: "Mission Accomplished"

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

there’s proof it wasn’t a suicide in the article you’ve linked there… well, it’s not the same as having the complete police report, buuut:

finger was still on the trigger when officers attempted to remove the gun from his hand. A police report states no fingerprints were recovered from the gun.

so, he wiped down the gun and bullets for fingerprints, and then shot himself?
sounds a lot like someone else shot him or put the gun in his hand and made him shoot himself (like by threatening his family)… and a shiny silver revolver is great for collecting fingerprints….
could’ve been an omitted detail… or soaked in blood?

they mention his fingerprints were found all over his notebook, so that seems pretty inconsistent….
….
i’ll just go smoke my Sherlock Holmes pipe now….

[–] bignate31@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Let me get this straight. You think somebody else wiped down the fingerprints on the gun, shot him, and then stuck his finger on the trigger without thinking about creating any fingerprints? Does seem like someone half-assed the wrong step of that operation...

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Somebody wiped it. Even if the victim had prior to the act, there would still be his prints. So it seem to have been wiped after the shot.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

seems like it…

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

You've misread the passive language here. 'no prints were recovered' can mean that they tried to find prints and couldn't, or that they never even bothered to try getting prints off the gun.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 57 minutes ago

i didn’t, i noted that the presence of prints on the notebook implies an effort to obtain fingerprints on things. the gun description is particularly good for collecting prints, and i know all sorts of random things could explain that otherwise… i do find it curious, however

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 20 points 9 hours ago

Also, people need to understand that not everything you touch will 100% have your fingerprints.

[–] Supervivens@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It could also mean no print were recovered other than his obviously which they may have just not bothered to mention

[–] TheYojimbo@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Yeah that's the obvious answer here, his finger was on the gun so his prints were there too...

[–] parody@lemmings.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

like by threatening his family

Exactly. Boeing investors/management maybe didn’t kill anybody. They simply asked him if he loved $familyMember1 ($age, $location, $bestFriend), $familyMember2 ($age, $location…)…

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

i sure wouldn’t like to see anything bad happen to family[1..n]

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 97 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

But one ceo gets killed and the polic and fbi go all in

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 28 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

[You have been banned from Reddit]

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 7 hours ago

[Everyone loved that]

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 36 points 11 hours ago

they're just doing their job. protecting the interests of big business and the wealthy.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 31 points 10 hours ago

Chiquita overthrew a government and everyone still loves their bananas 🤷‍♂️

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine how many people whose names you haven’t heard just randomly committed suicide one day. Or had an accident. Or just disappeared.

[–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Victoria Giuffre more recently in regards to Epstein.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

she also said quite publicly that she’s not suicidal and she would never do that to her family, and if that happened she was suicided…

Yeah I know. Sadly this doesn't get any bigger media representation.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

the most interesting part to me is that nowhere along the line did anyone mention just how interesting it all is. you know the real bad shit has started when the press shuts up and universities bend over and one of the richest people in the fucking world has to re-think his pricing displays because it pissed off the King.

edit to add - he put a fucking tax on british tea without congress. that's a taxation without representation. on british fucking tea.

[–] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Was there ever a credible investigation?

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

What’s there to investigate? It was just your normal everyday ‘outside a hotel, the day before your witness testimony to expose how a giant government backed multinational corporation is sacrificing people’s lives for profit, suicide’ It happens all the time!

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 hours ago

This is honestly a subject I get annoyed about. The US has ‘whistleblower’ protections but it’s really not there. This isn’t a black-op opp, it’s a failure of protections/proper compensations for blowing the whistle. Imagine you’ve spent your whole life dedicated to one field of engineering. You’ve now sacrificed it to blow the whistle. It’s not fair, nor is it just, but that’s what happens.

Boeing has done so much wrong that it honestly feels negligent to focus on a perceived assassination. And it directs attention away from how whistleblowers could be protected

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You can know a lot
You can know a little
But whatever you know
Just don't blow the whistle

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 hours ago

He wasn’t rich enough for anyone to care about.

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