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In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (39 children)

As I recall, it was important to punish the Biden administration for their role in assisting Israel.

As it turns out, there are severe consequences to ignoring absolutely every warning that Trump would be worse.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 0 points 6 days ago

As I recall, it was important to punish the Biden administration for their role in assisting Israel.

It's the duty of every human being in the world not to support criminal rulers with blood on their hands and to call them out. Instead of accusing people who didn't voted for murderers you should take your time to inform yourself and realize that the US government and many other government around the globe have been assisting and supporting israel government for decades

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With regards to Israel / Palestine, watching this unfold under Biden reminded me of the scene in Saving Private Ryan where the one soldier was going "shhh" while pushing a knife into the other soldier. And someone else watching but not doing anything about it.

Remember that Biden flat out lied to the American public. He will be remembered for his complicity in genocide, and there is absolutely nothing he can do to prevent this legacy. History is written by the victors, but younger generations get the last word.

Trump is certainly worse for Americans, and I voted with this in mind, but both sides are fucking awful for Palestinians. Lest we forget Chuck "my job is to keep the left pro-genocide" Schumer.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Although not voting was the wrong move, It's important to hold the democrats accountable imo. They essentially lost the election because they considered genocide more important then their consituents.

The fact is that Gazas fate would have been the same under both party. The way forward is to demand change from the democratic party to avoid such scenarios. Blaming voters implies it wasnt the democrats at fault in the first place for pushing apathy and genocide as their main platform. Even worse, it implies genocide somehow shouldnt be a voting issue.

[–] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (16 children)

The hell it would have. To say that the fate of Gaza would have been the same is absolute horseshit.

Democrats lost the election because a bunch of shitheel Muricans decided to stay home.

It's our fault and fuck y'all for trying to blame Democrats for not inspiring people to protect marginalized groups.

Dems suck but so does the general population that refuses to take any responsibility for their part in making this happen.

If you need a god damn politician to inspire you to think beyond yourself, you fuckin suck and are trash.

Over it.

Edit: I'm not responding to any more of you kids who are trying to justify sitting on your asses. None of you have helped save a single Palestinian life.

You're just spoiled Americunts who think you're superheroes for doing nothing

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What evidence do you have for your claim that things are worse in Gaza under Trump than they were under the Biden/Kamala path?

Note, rhetoric is not evidence. Trump lies all the time. Biden lies all the time. Trump says he would like the US to ethnically cleanse Gaza, but he's taken no actual steps towards that end. And Biden also tried to negotiate resettlement of the Gazans to other countries.

All I'm seeing here are vibe. You see someone who is objectively a bad human being, and you decide that they must be the worst possible person on Earth for every conceivable category. Trump can be far worse domestically than Biden while still being equivalent to him in terms of Palestine.

So again, don't quote me rhetoric. I don't care about Trump's verbal diarrhea. What actual material things can you point to that are different from what Biden was allowing without any resistance? Because I think you're mostly just going on vibes.

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[–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's absolutely no evidence that Harris getting elected would have done fuck all for Palestine.

Democrats lost because a lot of people who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump in 2024. This was due to a perception of a majority of voters that Trump was going to do a better job on the economy, immigration, and foreign policy.

When you look at the polling data, the genocide of Palestinians does not rank high at all, even among Democrats.

Stop blaming people for what they do with their vote. That's the entire fucking point of a democracy. Hold the right people accountable for thinking they could coast to victory on a strategy of "not being Trump".

[–] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (40 children)

Except instead of talking about building a resort in Gaza, she wanted a two state solution.

I will blame people for a moral failing all I want. Y'all decided to latch on to ONE issue and didn't give a shit who was harmed because of it, because suddenly, after over half a century of genocide, NOW you gave a shit

You did what the algorithm wanted you to do, and you don't care who got hurt or is currently in El Salvador, because hey, at least your shit don't stink

My trans son says "fuck you".

You are a wannabe. You don't give a shit about genocide. Because if you did, you'd do everything you could to save lives.

But instead you decided it was morally superior to let Trump in.

You're all bastards who have put my loved ones in danger.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Not if you don’t admit it to yourself and others!

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What gives them the authority to "plan" the lives of 1 million people halfway across the globe?

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"It couldn't possibly get worse"

Fuck's sake. I want to cry.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some people have no imagination...

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Deficient, juvenile, and narcissistic. And they make all the marginalized groups they claim to defend suffer for it.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sure am glad DOGE found all this money for the racist fucks to do things like this. Fuck Elon and the talking Cheeto.

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[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Send the Israelis to Libya instead

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

While I don’t think it does us any favors to front-load any plans for the future with “just send to ”, it’s also good to point out that a chunk of them are originally from Libya in the first place.

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[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Coming soon to Libya: new concentration camps

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Trump administration working on final solution to the Palestinian problem

Nothing btonsee here people, just a government working diligently on genocide, nothing to see here

[–] Camzing@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Take the Palestinians in and we will release your own money.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Libya: “yeah sure we’ll home them…”

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, at least the Palestinians living in Michigan now know where the administration is going to send them.

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