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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 56 points 2 days ago (26 children)

That's going to be great fun when the AI bubble pops and the subscription prices go up exponentially.

On the other hand, there have been other opinions about education that say it should be about making or researching something. Give a student a goal and let them figure it out using chatbots or whatever.

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[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 106 points 2 days ago (10 children)

TBH, I'd AI can screw up the education system so fast then it is the fault in the education system. AI is bad, but our education system is not good either.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (12 children)

but our education system is not good either.

No Child Left Behind has fucked us for over 20 years...

People are blaming these college kids, but their entire k-12 was under No Child, they were never taught critical thinking, what the fuck are they supposed to do? No one ever taught these kids to think for themselves.

We failed an entire generation, and it's too late to fix it for them now, the best we can do is fix it for the kids that will start public education in a few years.

But we'll be paying the price for decades

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Like all things republican, you ruin the public service, then tell everybody we need to get rid of this public service cause only the free market can provide that service in good quality.

Vouchers will save us our children!

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[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This 100%.

The education system was not OK, and has not been for a while. Its main goal is limiting liability, not educating kids.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Going to have generations of people unable to think analytically or creatively, and just as bad, entering fields that require a real detailed knowledge of the subject and they don't. Going to see a lot of fuck ups in engineering, medicine, etc because of people faking it.

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[–] Norin@lemmy.world 70 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I teach at a community college. I see a lot of AI nonsense in my assignments.

So much so that I’m considering blue book exams for the fall.

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

For anyone who is also not from the US:

A blue book exam is a type of test administered at many post-secondary schools in the United States. Blue book exams typically include one or more essays or short-answer questions. Sometimes the instructor will provide students with a list of possible essay topics prior to the test itself and will then choose one or let the student choose from two or more topics that appear on the test.

EDIT, as an extra to solve the mystery:

Butler University in Indianapolis was the first to introduce exam blue books, which first appeared in the late 1920s.[1] They were given a blue color because Butler's school colors are blue and white; therefore they were named "blue books".

[–] errer@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Importantly it is hand written, no computers.

Biggest issue is that kids’ handwriting often sucks. That’s not a new problem but it’s a problem with handwritten work.

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[–] happydoors@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, I think many kids could easily approach AI the same way older generations thought of math, calculators, and the infamous “you won’t have a calculator with you everywhere.” If I was a kid today and I knew I didn’t have to know everything because I could just look it up, instantly; I too would become quite lazy. Even if the AI now can’t do it, they are smart enough to know AI in 10 years will. I’m not saying this is right, but I see how many kids would end up there.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

know AI in 10 years will.

That kind of the main problem: there is no indication that it will. I know one thing: current way LLM works, the chances that the problem of "lying" and "hallucinations", will even be solved are slim to none. There could be some mechanism that works in tandem with the bullshit generator machine to keep it in check, but it doesn't exist yet.
So most likely either we will collectively learn this fact and stop relying on this bullshit, which means there is a generation of kids who essentially skipped a learning phase, or we don't learn this fact, and there will be a society of mindless zombies that are fed lies and random bullshit on a second-to-second basis.
Both cases are bleak, but the second one is nightmarish.

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[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This could be complete bullshit because im not an expert but i sometimes think that we could have a future where without testing and nurturing peoples critical thinking skills we end up with people who dont know how to create a rational argument or assess information they are given for its accuracy and authenticity, or to know when they are being deceived by malicious actors.

English writing assignments as simple as a book report require you to take different views and angles on something to understand it better and the nuances of the whole, but tell a LLM to write it for you and you are not developing that part of your own mind where you may learn to do things like see the whole story above the individual events noise, see things from others perspective/feelings and understand alternate world views. These are critical for having empathy for others and understanding the world around you.
And that is just one small example i came up with.

[–] gadfly1999@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

We are already there. Just look at the state of society right now and observe the critical thinking and media literacy skills of the average person.

In the words of cyberpunk author Wiilam Gibson: “The future is already here – it’s just not very evenly distributed.“

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[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Honest question: how do we measure critical thinking and creativity in students?

If we're going to claim that education is being destroyed (and show we're better than our great^n grandparents complaining about the printing press), I think we should try to have actual data instead of these think-pieces and anecdata from teachers. Every other technology that the kids were using had think-pieces and anecdata.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (37 children)

I'm thinking the only way people will be able to do schoolwork without cheating now is going to be to make them sit in a monitored room and finish it there.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The cynical view of America’s educational system—that it is merely a means by which privileged co-eds can make the right connections, build “social capital,” and get laid—is obviously on full display here.

Cynical? I call that realistic. That's what privileged co-eds have been using it for the past 100 years.

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