Mrs. Warp Core is also going through this very thing. Basically the wild hormone swings hit her hard, right in the executive function. ADHD meds helped, but ultimately weren't enough. HRT has helped tremendously. That said, we're now terrified to roll off of that.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you mind telling me what age she was? My wife is suffering severely with mental health but will not see a psychiatrist. I suspect perimenopause. She does see a therapist.

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[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Man it got worse in ways i didn't think possible.

So convinced i understood myself and i actually masterminded my soul into stagnation...

..but a hand come out of the mud

[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

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[–] weastie@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, there is partial truth to this. Diagnosing especially preteens with mental health conditions almost always needs an asterisk, their brains are still heavily developing.

Remember that we know of no reliable genetic / physiological markers for ADHD, so when doctors diagnose it, they're really just saying that the amount of symptoms seems to be severe enough. Some kids are just naturally more energetic, intelligent, etc. and may appear like they have ADHD, but when they develop into adults that might not actually be the case.

If anything, it's more like 1/3 of kids were misdiagnosed as having ADHD, so they "grew" out of it because they didn't really have it. It's a lot less likely for an adult to be misdiagnosed because their brains aren't changing.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

Great reminders about the lack of physiological markers. The (or one?) elephant in the room, to me - I'd phrase it as - to what degree a kid's just naturally well- or poorly-suited to the public school environment itself.

A child that finds it difficult to sit in one place and listen to words about abstract material for hours every day...I mean does that sound divergent in any way?

One of the fundamental markers of childhood in my experience is a certain...animation, just this almost irresistible urge to move around, negotiate whatever activity is occurring and in what way, with whoever is nearby...switching activities and modes of play fluidly. Seems like the most normal shit ever to me lol.

I do recognize we need a standardized way to educate our kids in a modern society, but as we learn more about young brains, we gotta start developing a more diverse way to accomplish the learning and development of self-discipline. The one-size-fits-all approach just obviously leaves many underserved, and worse, leaves them internalizing a lot of frustration with self, not to mention taking all kinds of drugs to "treat those symptoms".

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

"Psychologist" just means they were able to complete a degree program at all, C's get degrees

[–] StereoCode@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Hmm I'm sure it's personal for each but me I feel like I didn't outgrow it. More like I overcame it.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

Well yeah, if they got better, they wouldn't be someone you know with ADHD. Obviously

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago (5 children)

…because if it got better, you don’t know about it?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago

Exactly. This sounds like selection bias in action. If you're sampling adults who have ADHD and asking if it's better from when they were kids, you've already skewed the results beyond repair. You need to follow kids with ADHD into adulthood and see if it gets better.

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