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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 23 points 12 hours ago

Such smol govment

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 44 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Killing Biden's CHIPs act certainly didn't help that cause.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

He will kill and reinstate it to sell it as his own doing.
Obviously guided by his counselers and consultants.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

Oh, like NAFTA!

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

What a fucking idiot

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It is paid by consumers, not Apple. Other phone companies will raise prices as well to increase their profits, since iPhone prices will set a new high price. When Apple prices goes up 25% other phone companies can increase their prices by 15% and still be competitive to apple.

Actually to make same profit due to lower phone sales Apple may have to raise price even higher than 25% or find other ways to get consumers to pay more. Die hard fans of Apple will buy, whatever the price.

[–] TorJansen@sh.itjust.works 84 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I see the problem here. He's talking to Tim Cook, who's CEO of some cooking company. He needs to talk to Tim Apple.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Failed business man telling people how to run their businesses. I’ve got an idea about how to make American manufacturing cheaper universal healthcare.

[–] Vari@lemm.ee 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It would take MINIMUM 10 years to even come close to like 60% manufactured in US. And that’s assuming the US upends the entire global tech industry by coming even kind of close to TSMC’s chip manufacturing tech.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Tim Apple could just buy him a fucking plane and be done with it. And that would open up some interesting opportunities, nahmean?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It’s what I’d do if I were an ambitious, resource hoarding, ass pimple billionaire.

It’s obvious the way to Trump’s heart is to tell him he’s pretty and give him something .

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah make him a custom iPhone with a unibody out of pure gold?

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

You can know the impact of what building in the US would be by looking at Purism. They sell a Linux phone for $800. If you want the same phone built in the US, they charge $2000.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 98 points 19 hours ago (14 children)

you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.

NEVER.

a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?

let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.

the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?

so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.

and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.

all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 23 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Based on the numbers from Purism, it could be a lot more than 25% more expensive to manufacture everything in USA. Purims Librem 5 costs 799 $, while the made-in-America version costs 1999 $. That's roughly a 2.5x difference. Obviously, economies of scale play a role too but let's assume that the same factor applies to iPhones too. If so, the fanciest iPhone would cost about 4000 $.

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[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Most of the Iphone is not Chinese, the screens are made by Samsung in Korea, and the chips are from Taiwan. Only the fiddly final assembly is done in China.

[–] Detren@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

But he wants it all American. Not just non-Chinese.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

It's because Donald can't envisage the supply chain for anything more complex than a Trump flag or a MAGA hat.

In his mind, housewives can be knocking iPhones out in Bumfuck, Mississippi.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Excuse me, sir. There is no town in Mississippi called "Bumfuck". That town is firmly within the boundaries of Iowa.

Mississippi would never stoop to the level of Iowa in having Bumfuck, Iowa. Mississippi is more elegant in its nomenclature. Thus, if you wish to make a point about a town in the middle of nowhere in Mississippi, please respect Mississippi by referring to such a town as Cousin-Hump, Mississippi. Thank you.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago

Fun you should bring up his merch because literally all of it is Chinese or Indian produced.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We don't even have silicon availability. I don't mean chips or printed boards, I mean processed quarts crushed into powder.

We would have to start opening strip mines and building massive furnaces and crushers and expanding railways. It's just not feasible.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 20 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

and expanding railways

Do it.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 47 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."

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[–] tartarin@lemm.ee 7 points 13 hours ago (12 children)

This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently capitalist systems devolve into authoritarianism; as evidenced by living in 2025.

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[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Don't tell all the tankies.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I bet Tim Apple is really happy about his large donation to the Trump inauguration.

Then again, if you're that rich, maybe having some intelligence and foresight should be an expectation. If you don't have those things, maybe you shouldn't be rich.

That said, for a 25% tariff, it isn't even close. Still far cheaper for Apple to manufacture outside of the US and pass that additional cost to the US consumer.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago

Looks like Apple is balking at paying the required bribe.

[–] Loduz_247@lemmy.world 209 points 1 day ago (40 children)

Trump has become schizophrenic again.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 89 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Trump has a lot that seems might be wrong with him, but schizophrenia never really seemed to be on the list. Narcissism, dementia, psycho-/socio-pathy, compulsive lying, and possibly more, but I've never gotten the feeling he displayed the hyperpatternicity I associate with schizophrenia.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 125 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

It sounds like he thinks the word "tariff" just means "payment". Then he follows that with "[whoever he thinks should make the payment]". Tariff by Apple, Tariff by China, etc. Honestly. I don't know how else you can make it make sense.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 10 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Do it to everyone, I dare you. Nerds get heated. Please it will end sooner for him.

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