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As it turns out it doesn't actually cost that much on regular transit, there's an AIRPORT SURCHARGE because it's an "airport train".

No wonder Americans don't use public transit, even when the system exists it's ridiculously difficult and expensive to use.

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[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Toronto’s UP express checking in. $12.35 from down town to the airport. Sub way in the city is cheap and affordable but that dam airport thing is in its own world.

https://www.upexpress.com/en/about-up/things-are-looking-up

Next topic is toll roads. 407. Full there and back trip during main business hours. 274km = $173.50

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

It used to be more. Then someone pointed out it was more expensive than a cab from downtown to the airport.

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[–] shifty@leminal.space 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Imagine working minimum wage in SF and commuting in by BART + BUS / MUNI Lightrail / CALTRAIN / FERRY. Gotta work at least 2 hours just to cover the costs of your commute every day.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 18 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Wait... Employers don't cover travel cost to and from work in America..?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Where do they cover your commuting costs? I've never heard of that.

[–] mogranja@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

In Brazil, it's pretty common for the employer to pay your transit fare to/from work. Often you can receive the same value directly instead if you choose to use another form of transportation.

[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

Here in Paris, half of our transportation fee (carte Navigo, 87€ per month) is paid by the employer.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's common in multiple European countries.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

No they don’t

[–] Entheon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, very rarely do you see them cover it at all. That's why we hate our 1+ hour drive commutes.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wtf? It's normal in the Netherlands...

Public transport will be the whole second class price. By car it is up to 23 cents per kilometer.

[–] Entheon@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Gosh that would be nice. Unfortunately we are stuck on simpler issues like "do kids deserve to eat at school", so it'll probably be a while before we get paid commute time.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Where do employers cover the cost of sommuting?

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago
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[–] sheridan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's still probably significantly cheaper than Uber/Lyft.

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[–] elgordino@fedia.io 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I once went through a BART gate line by mistake, I was trying to get to the trolley service and misread the signage. I immediately exited. The charge: $6.20. Still can’t believe it.

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[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The current toll to cross the bay bridge by car from Oakland to sf is $8, and like someone mentioned it's only $4.25 from Oakland to sf without the airport charge, so you are still saving by using bart, just not as much as you probably should.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

In case anyone is wondering, a one way trip from Oakland International Airport to the Civic Center station in San Francisco (the stop next to City Hall and the city's largest open air fent market) is exactly $12.65.

The trip from Oakland to Civic Center is "just" $5.20, but like OP said, there's a fuckass stupid airport surcharge for the last half mile or so.

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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i wondered, who is this person who is so out of touch that she thinks that is a reasonable price, and... she is a former member of congress from orange county who is currently campaigning to be governor of california 🤡

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

One of the reasons I don't want to live anywhere else in the US is NYC had public transit that mostly works. Even if this weekend I had to do a Q to the N to the 7 to back to the N to get to queens. I played a whole game of Lords of Waterdeep on my phone and read some of my book.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

I used to sit on the Prospect Park<->Franklin Ave S shuttle on Saturday mornings and just ride it back and forth while reading a book because it was so calming. Gliding through green backyards in the springtime.

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