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[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 71 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

Nobody claimed that

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

These things are always so annoying and uncritical. They are not wrong that the democrats are a conservative party, but that is still where the current progressive movement lives.

I think there is a bit of a trap in seeing the maga rise as a monolith, but I think there are two main wings. The evangelical side and the libertarian side. They might have some overlap, but their motivations and goals are still rather distinct. The important take away for this short essay of sorts is that they have agreed on enough points to move the overton window to get large parts of what they want. For the evangelicals it is abortion bans and ten commandments in schools. In the libertarian wing it is DOGE (inspired by the libertarian president in argentina)

Tankies and others who say “Biden was no better than Trump” are really messing up our ability to have a leftist/progressive party. In either growing it with-in the dems or starting from scratch. I want to understand what they are saying, but it is frustrating how unserious they are in actually achieving goals.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 hours ago

No no, you see, voting for Biden would be voting for this too, somehow. Because they are part of the same system, or something? Both sides same and all that.

Honestly the mental gymnastics are too much for me to effectively work out into a distilled comment.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 hour ago

What are you accomplishing right now?

[–] refract@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

If you don't own a gun, its time to get one, regardless of your stance on them. This is martial law without having to call it that.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.

Sooo, there’s that.

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago

Legally I believe the National Guard must be mobilized for a legal reason and until Trump has identified an actual cause, he cannot mobilize them himself. So Newson should just order them to stand down.

Newson hasn't done that though.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 55 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.

It's not a fucking immigration protest. They didn't deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 9 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, it’s no longer an “immigration protest”. It’s a NAZI protest.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 hours ago

2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn't want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 23 points 4 hours ago

Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 6 hours ago

Funny how he doesn't hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn't do shit.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't the California National Guard report to the Governor?

[–] riyehn@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

Normally yes, but the president has the power to federalize National Guard troops in extraordinary circumstances. That power hasn't been exercised since 1965 though. Until now.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How many fakes are in the crowd manipulating the situation for the oppositions political gain?

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 hours ago

Yup. And it's always these guy who are agitating for violence and "burning shiat down" and nobody can remember who this guy is or exactly when he joined the group.

They're called, "agents provocateurs" (google them. They're nothing new). They are government plants whose job is to start shit in peaceful protests to give the government an excuse to crack down violently.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

As an overt resistor, my uniform (with ID) and an emblem, a sparrow of hope for a better tomorrow.

Video: Bernie Sanders and the Sparrow of Hope

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

Would love to have an official sparrow of hope symbol for morale patches and car decals.

That video of Bernie put a tear in my eye. I thought "God chose Bernie on this day".
I don't even identify as a Christian.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't trump lose horribly every time he goes after CA?

He'd have better luck waiting for something to go down in the Midwest, but yeah, w/e good luck.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Ocean_Resort_Baja_Mexico

He fucked up every investor by around $200,000.0 each. Lots of love for this guy to go around. Somehow he keeps buying into higher and higher places. Purchasing the seat of the US presidency may not be the end.....China has a heck of a lot of people to fuck with!

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Especially in a town known for its history of riots. LA is ready to kick some nazi ass at a moments notice.

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