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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 128 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 104 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that's not going to solve this. It's just going to start a true resistance.

There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.

As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that's when they kill them.

All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.

The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 day ago

I hope a true resistance is born of this. We need to band together and rise up!

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Agreed. If protestor blood is spilled, it will foment a resistance that will build.

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[–] HorseTesselator@midwest.social 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Maybe a bit of a hot take, but I think Trump is also doing this at least partly to distract from his spat with Musk's Epstein implications. Not to mention Trump's upcoming parade. Also, keep in mind that 2,000 Nat'l guard troops is surprisingly low, especially for an area the size of L.A. In '92 they brought in almost 10,000.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about this, too, but personally I believe people need to keep their cool, here. I'm seeing a lot of doom spiraling and panicking all over the place online and we need to be mindful of how this affects us mentally and emotionally.

We're in the long game.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

This is basically my take as well, Californian cities are fucking massive and 2,000 people in LA especially is barely a drop in the bucket. Also these are National guardsmen who may very well be pissed they are being sent to stand around outside in LA during the summer, the concrete and blacktop does not let go of heat easily.

Edit: Bucket not bugget, my auto correct is on bath salts.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 75 points 1 day ago

You mean the Man who Deployed Secret Police in his FIRST TERM is Deploying the National Guard in his SECOND TERM? I did NAZI This coming!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They've been salivating for an opportunity like this. I bet they thought it would have happened already

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[–] EchoChamber@lemmy.today 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They are all a bunch of Racists. The existence of brown people is simply too much for them

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[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 57 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It's starting!!! The downfall of democracy, we had a good run!

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Or its revival. This might become the spark that turns these protests into a revolution.

A new Boston massacre may be in our future

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Remember this, everyone. The Boston Massacre was the day that "laid the foundation for Independence."

  • John Adams, Patriot, Founding Father, and attorney who volunteered to defend the British soldiers at Boston in a court of law.

He described the patriots who were massacred and shot at as a "mob." His arguments in court ensured that six of the eight British soldiers were acquitted, and the other two were charged with manslaughter, not murder.

Why? Because he was a traitor?

No. Because he was a Patriot. Because justice is blind. Because the people of Boston would have lynched all eight in the town square without a fair trial.

Because they were a mob, and they had every reason to be a mob. The soldiers, in turn, had genuine reason to be afraid for their lives, and there was no proof that six of those eight soldiers killed anyone that day.

Those were the arguments that a founding father and future President made in a court of law.

Even the enemy is human, and deserves a fair chance. That is what due process is. That is what justice is. That is one of the many great ideals that founded this country, and it is being ground into dust beneath the boots of Fascism.

Be patriots.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh, that happened the instant the SCOTUS declared the president above the law and Biden didn't say "fuck you, idiots", fire all the justices who ruled in favor of that decision at gunpoint, appoint all new justices in their place, and then declare that ruling void by fiat. If you're about to say "the president can't do that", the SCOTUS declared the president above the law, he actually can.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It was really hard to watch. SCOTUS created this monster executive with unlimited and almost unchecked powers, Biden declared that Trump was a danger to democracy itself, and then... crickets. It was heart-breaking that he didn't even try to curb the limits of power of the Presidency by doing something SCOTUS was going to rule against, handing the next administration everything.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair, he did issue a bunch of flimsy ass pardons for his closest friends and family, he just didn't do anything to help the rest of us.

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[–] clang@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Really? I think it was when they installed Bush in 2000.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It genuinely goes back to Nixon and Goldwater. This is all an evolution of the southern strategy. Get enough people to vote for one thing and everything else is on the menu. (Also, convincing people to not vote at all goes hand in hand with this. Looking at you, protest voters.)

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