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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 95 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Fucking newspapers these days, this shit is important.

https://archive.ph/3X3Fe

OK, so the same shit about "trump is going to". last I heard newsom was in charge of CA NG. Trump isn't allowed to bring them up without a declaration of emergency or whatever.

Just bullshit that they will walk back in the morning.

e: LA times and AP seem to think this is actually happening. This is the boiling point; are you going to sit in the pot or jump out?

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (20 children)

My only complaint (and I get to blame Regan) is that we can’t open carry here in Cali. That would help stop a lot of federal response if we had that capacity again.

I’m not for destroying government property since that’s property that belongs to the people, but I also respect that change doesn’t happen with complacency. Plus if it was a peaceful protest for Jan 6ers then why is this not considered one?

Every day I wish we didn’t have the current admin in charge since they lack capacity and bandwidth to take care of the real economic issues facing our generation and time.

Completely agree though that the national guard is in control of the governor. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Newsom agrees to bring them in if the feds kick in FEMA funding like they’re supposed to.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Open carry would have stopped NOTHING.

Flashing a gun at those GI Joe wannabes would have triggered their tiny brains to go into shoot to kill mode, and it would have been a massacre.

These dimwits are trained for full blown military responses. That's easy for them, they have the gear, the training, and the psychopaths to shoot on sight.

What they can't handle is massive civil disobedience, because they can't arrest 100k, 500k, 1 million people who are out there lawfully protesting.

But it's nutjobs like you, or that moron who sped their car at the agents, who will fuck it up for everyone.

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Martial law incoming.

[–] match@pawb.social 43 points 3 days ago (7 children)

elon could do the funniest thing here and declare open rebellion against tyranny

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Buy guns, learn how to use them

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 44 points 3 days ago

On it. Now I just need friends. If you see a guy in green, that might be me.

I figure we need a suitable color to separate ourselves from the politics of yore.

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[–] match@pawb.social 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Are the Europeans proud of our protests yet?

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, Americans always defend their guns because they could use them to rise up against their government. So honestly, although normally considered impressive, you Americans raised our expectations even higher.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We have guns, but the government has even more.

There's not so much gained from escalation. Cameras are still the best weapon, considering how many allegedly sentient organisms still have support for Trump's actions. Media has claimed that "they're only arresting violent illegals", and "they're only using soldiers to stop violent riots". Regretfully, millions of people still believe that. The more evidence we can generate that both are untrue, the more that we can turn the tide.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

escalation is actually an amazing deterrent. protests from the early US prove there is actually a lot to be gained. they can be incredibly effective.

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[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Not even Hong Kong protests level yet.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If this turns into an American Tiananmen Square, you're going to end up knocking a star off that flag.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It depends on whether we're allowed to talk about it in 5 years.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The rest of the world is watching and we will be talking about it even if the "land of the free" isn't allowed to.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Absolutely you are, We will too.

The key difference between tiananmen square and what's going on right now will be whether US citizens are prohibited from talking about it in 5 years.

If you are citizens aren't prohibited then it wasn't a tiananmen square.

Right now, 50/50 maybe 60/40

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[–] who@feddit.org 53 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I would like to see California boldly and forcefully repel this invasion, but I don't know how it would work.

The California National Guard is part of the National Guard of the United States, a dual federal-state military reserve force.

When National Guard troops are called to federal service, the president serves as Commander-In-Chief. The federal mission assigned to the National Guard is: "To provide properly trained and equipped units for prompt mobilization for war, national emergency or as otherwise needed."

The governor of California may call individuals or units of the California National Guard into state service during emergencies or special situations. The state mission of the National Guard is: "To provide trained and disciplined forces for domestic emergencies or as otherwise provided by state law."

Role: Organized militia
Size: 24,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_National_Guard

EDIT:

When I look at this as Trump and his gang deliberately inciting conflict with state/local governments in order to have an excuse to seize control from them before the next election, the situation becomes even trickier.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 40 points 3 days ago (6 children)

If the governor activates them first, it limits the reasons the president can activate them and override the governor.

Of course Trump would try to do it anyway, meaning the NG commander would have to decide who to follow (and let's be real, it would probably be the president).

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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

And so it begins.

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