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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

XD so, like a regular school/university student that just wants to get passing grades?

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's hilarious/sad is the response to this article over on reddit's "singularity" sub, in which all the top comments are people who've obviously never got all the way through a research paper in their lives all trashing Apple and claiming their researchers don't understand AI or "reasoning". It's a weird cult.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

NOOOOOOOOO

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fucking obviously. Until Data's positronic brains becomes reality, AI is not actual intelligence.

AI is not A I. I should make that a tshirt.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s an expensive carbon spewing parrot.

[–] Threeme2189@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It's a very resource intensive autocomplete

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 1 day ago

No way!

Statistical Language models don't reason?

But OpenAI, robots taking over!

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think it's important to note (i'm not an llm I know that phrase triggers you to assume I am) that they haven't proven this as an inherent architectural issue, which I think would be the next step to the assertion.

do we know that they don't and are incapable of reasoning, or do we just know that for x problems they jump to memorized solutions, is it possible to create an arrangement of weights that can genuinely reason, even if the current models don't? That's the big question that needs answered. It's still possible that we just haven't properly incentivized reason over memorization during training.

if someone can objectively answer "no" to that, the bubble collapses.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (12 children)

do we know that they don't and are incapable of reasoning.

"even when we provide the algorithm in the prompt—so that the model only needs to execute the prescribed steps—performance does not improve"

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[–] Nanook@lemm.ee 230 points 1 day ago (60 children)

lol is this news? I mean we call it AI, but it’s just LLM and variants it doesn’t think.

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