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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Post shower toilet thought: Copyright isn't there to protect the author, it's there to create a multi-billion dollar legal industry.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

you poop AFTER you shower???

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heresy of the highest order.

[–] quicksand@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Maybe he's going to get back in the shower. Hold your judgement until we have more information. Some people just gotta poop a lot

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Expect...no? Like, copyright gets abused a lot, but it's still used for its intended purpose of protecting small time creators and artists all the time.

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[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 88 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You can't give UBI to a subset of people. Then it's not universal anymore.

But if you did give artists a basic income, how much art would they need to produce to qualify? What qualifies as art? The law doesn't do well with those kinds of questions.

Better to implement true UBI. Give it to everyone, and afford more security to folks who want to focus on art.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sorry, I meant UBI for everyone, including artists.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Ah my bad, then I agree!

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[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure OP meant UBI for everyone, as in its a much better fight than the fight against AI Art

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The solution is UBI and then tax incomes. It gives everyone the opportunity to persue goals, and if you make enough extra it is taxes to pay for everyone else to have the same opportunity. Persue art if you wish. If it's successful you'll get to pay it forward. You don't have to struggle to just survive while pursuing those goals.

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[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I completely agree on giving UBI to everyone, Imagine a world without artists. Without movies, TV shows, theaters, musicals, museums, books, music, sculpture, paintings, architecture.

Imagine how dull everything would be, without the creativity and imagination of these people out to use. But nowaday people just say Y0u_sH0uLd_sTuDy_SoMeThInG_t0_hAvE_iNc0mE, ignoring the consequences of the absence of arts

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that's a cooked thought. How hot was your shower

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yes we can see that he was based while cooking, we're just wondering what temp for how long?

[–] 31415926535@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago (8 children)

On SSI right now. My art has exploded recently because I have a lot of time. Every day, at least one complete piece. Still pretty poor, struggling financially. But oil pastels, gesso, baby oil, cotton balls, piece of plastic... because free time, I'm excitedly experimenting, create pieces deeply layered, sculptural. Was never possible when employed.

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[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

UBI and copyright are not mutually exclusive. Why wouldn't artists want to earn more on top for the work they do and the value they create, like every other profession?!

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[–] cdegallo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The creation can possibly have monetary value, thus the protection. How much is up to society.

This isn't a good argument for UBI.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a good argument because artificially constraining the supply to simulate "monetary value" destroys most of the actual value it could have by being available to everyone. The "protection" is a harmful kludge that only has to exist because we insist on making everyone measure their value with the market.

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[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What if their "art" is actually and utterly a pile of steaming shit?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That typically sells better than art that isn't made of literal shit.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean like Tracy Emin's bed? It gets featured in the Tate Modern of London.

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[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

That is too logical and convenient to be allowed under psychopathic capitalism that runs the world

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