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    That's UI design, a dark art mere mortals like you and me won't ever understand.

    [–] leo85811nardo@lemmy.world 157 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    "Modern" UI design be like: fat paddings everywhere

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Don't forget:

    • Massive fucking fonts
    • No visual separation between UI elements
    • Hijacked scrolling
    • Everything shoved into animated menus
    • One (1) context action in the bottom right
    [–] Phoeniqz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago

    Also, no right-click menus! You have to click on a three-dot icon at the side of that UI component

    [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago

    MOAR WHITESPACE

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 100 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    the edits to charlie kirk's face are so subtle these days, I can't tell if this is the original or has been slightly modified.

    [–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    It had been so long since I'd seen his real face that I didn't know how it actually looked like anymore. I saw a clip of him a few days ago and thought 'oh, they aren't changing it that much'

    [–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    there was this real or fake quiz online that shows Kirk's face and you try to tell whether it's edited. it was really funny because it was actually hard to tell.

    [–] kadup@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

    Gnome apps running on my PC:

    I don't use Gnome

    Bottom text

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 74 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

    don't you just fucking love  
     
     
                                                   paddings!  
     
     

    (apologies to everyone whose device can't render HTML entities)

    [–] callyral@pawb.social 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    maybe this works on more devices?

    
                                                      paddings!
    
    
    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 4 days ago

    That's not padding that's pre!

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    i was going to ask what it was supposed to look like, then i opened a reply text and all i see is &nbsp;

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

    The above comment with gratuitous empty spaces around "paddings!"

    Unfortunately, beyond the standard Markdown elements, there is zero feature parity between various front-ends and their Markdown renderers.

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    [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 47 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Never got the Mac trend of not using your full screen. I get even less why Gnome copied it.

    [–] percent@infosec.pub 8 points 4 days ago

    I think I missed this trend. I've been full-screening almost everything on macOS for years

    [–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    I'm not sure I understand... GTK can use full screens...

    [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago (11 children)

    This is what I am referring to. Many macOS people work like this:

    [–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    I've been forced onto a shit mac book with this stupid OS for the first time in my life and spend 90% of the tine interacting with it basically trying to work around how bad window management and many other things are. Hacks and custom apps and changing options to try to make sense of it. I'm in this hell hole for 2 months now. I still have no idea or feeling for how or when windows behave or if they even become maximized or not. I hate it all.

    The worst offender is opening the system settings and it's a stupid window that can't be maximized in anyway whatsoever and just sits there looking like an horrendous thing being frustrating.

    But after using it I've finally understood where so many bad decisions gnome for example is stealing their ideas from.

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    [–] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    So can OSX for some time now it gives a full screen program it’s own workspace type screen

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    [–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Why is Charlie Kirk’s face so big in this?

    [–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

    I enjoy using Gnome and don't really encounter any issues in my day to day use

    (pls don't kill me :))

    [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    I don't like using GNOME desktop or apps, but that's not because its bad or less capable for my usage. I just don't prefer their design philosophies. I'm grateful that it exists nonetheless. Linux desktop users are spoiled by how many great choices we have.

    [–] wer2@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    I don't like Gnome, but I am glad it works for you. At the end of the day Gnome is better than Windows, Mac, and CDE.

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    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    I used to be a GNOME fanatic a couple of years ago. I switched to KDE after I got tired of the perpetually broken state of extensions.

    I’m still thankful for all the effort and commitment the GNOME devs have invested over the years though! It’s an excellent desktop environment!

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    [–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Proper GTK4 adwaita apps don't do that. They scale really well on mobiles to desktops.

    [–] edinbruh@feddit.it 70 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

    Counterargument:

    Admittedly this is a chat app, so there's little to do. But still, it could stretch out a little bit more, maybe open the conversation info panel on the right

    [–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    That looks like it's just wrapping a WebView, is it not?

    It looks like the CSS is just capping the container class width at 1440px, which has nothing to do with GTK

    [–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)
    [–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago

    Fair - point still stands though - the application only has a single breakpoint defined at 600sp from a cursory glance, the lack of an ultra-wide specific layout is just because it hasn't been implemented rather than a shortfall of GTK (though I'm not sure you would even want to make the message view wider, as it would impair readability)

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    [–] darksiderbun@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Okay so I remember seeing this exact post yesterday. Not that this is stolen, like this exact post. I read some of the comments and chuckled because tiny face Charlie Kirk is funny. I saw a picture of him on a video this morning and never realized that HIS FACE IS ACTUALLY KINDA LIKE THAT WHY IS IT SO SMALL AND CENTERED.

    [–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

    Holy fuck, you are right. This is from his Wikipedia page:

    [–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 4 days ago

    Damn, did you enlarge Charlie's face for the meme? 😆

    [–] Luci@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

    Friends don't let friends use GNOME

    KDE4LYFE

    [–] edinbruh@feddit.it 14 points 4 days ago

    Gnome does have a lot of strong points, I personally use both

    [–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 days ago

    Common gnome L

    [–] boaratio@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I don't mean to be pedantic, but why do people shit on DEs? I don't like KDE, but I'll never say an ill word about it. The whole point of Linux and open source in general is that we have choice. If you don't like gnome, that's fine, move along to your interface of choice. Come on, there are better things to argue about.

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    It's never about the DE's themselves, it's about the devs.

    KDE's devs are just focused on making a cool desktop environment with many features. It's a little buggy and has some weird design decisions, but whatever, no biggie.

    GNOME devs deliberately sabbotage existing linux standards in attemps to take control over desktop linux. Examples: client-side decorations, client-side shadows, systray fiasco.

    This is not a question of personal preference. It's a question of keeping desktop linux free, fair, and accessible for everyone.

    [–] boaratio@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    You're feeding the fire. Just use what you like and let the other DEs do their thing. You can totally exist without shitting on what other people prefer.

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

    Did you even read my comment? This has nothing to do with personal preference. It's a matter of defending a shared commons from a hostile force. Sure, an individual gnome user can coexist with an individual kde user, like seriously who cares its just a DE. But as a community, users of other DEs, WMs and compositors can only "coexist" with the gnome project in the same way that a population of humans can "coexist" with the COVID-19 virus

    [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    I interpret this being more about how GNOME apps function in general, also on other desktops, which is fair criticism.

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    [–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Time for a scrolling window manager

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    [–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

    Can somebody tell me how to change that in Mint Cinnamon? I really don't like the padded bar at the top of every window.

    [–] Kiuyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

    This is why I don't use GNOME apps on a tiling WM. They always have an absurd amount of padding.

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