That's UI design, a dark art mere mortals like you and me won't ever understand.
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I don't mean to be pedantic, but why do people shit on DEs? I don't like KDE, but I'll never say an ill word about it. The whole point of Linux and open source in general is that we have choice. If you don't like gnome, that's fine, move along to your interface of choice. Come on, there are better things to argue about.
I interpret this being more about how GNOME apps function in general, also on other desktops, which is fair criticism.
That's fine, move along. No need to crap on the hard work of the OSS people that work on anything.
I'll have you notice that there's also a gigachad in the meme, not just Kirk
It's never about the DE's themselves, it's about the devs.
KDE's devs are just focused on making a cool desktop environment with many features. It's a little buggy and has some weird design decisions, but whatever, no biggie.
GNOME devs deliberately sabbotage existing linux standards in attemps to take control over desktop linux. Examples: client-side decorations, client-side shadows, systray fiasco.
This is not a question of personal preference. It's a question of keeping desktop linux free, fair, and accessible for everyone.
You're feeding the fire. Just use what you like and let the other DEs do their thing. You can totally exist without shitting on what other people prefer.
Did you even read my comment? This has nothing to do with personal preference. It's a matter of defending a shared commons from a hostile force. Sure, an individual gnome user can coexist with an individual kde user, like seriously who cares its just a DE. But as a community, users of other DEs, WMs and compositors can only "coexist" with the gnome project in the same way that a population of humans can "coexist" with the COVID-19 virus
Buddy, you need to calm down.
"Modern" UI design be like: fat paddings everywhere
Don't forget:
- Massive fucking fonts
- No visual separation between UI elements
- Hijacked scrolling
- Everything shoved into animated menus
- One (1) context action in the bottom right
Also, no right-click menus! You have to click on a three-dot icon at the side of that UI component
MOAR WHITESPACE
the edits to charlie kirk's face are so subtle these days, I can't tell if this is the original or has been slightly modified.
It had been so long since I'd seen his real face that I didn't know how it actually looked like anymore. I saw a clip of him a few days ago and thought 'oh, they aren't changing it that much'
there was this real or fake quiz online that shows Kirk's face and you try to tell whether it's edited. it was really funny because it was actually hard to tell.
don't you just fucking love
paddings!
(apologies to everyone whose device can't render HTML entities)
i was going to ask what it was supposed to look like, then i opened a reply text and all i see is
Unfortunately, beyond the standard Markdown elements, there is zero feature parity between various front-ends and their Markdown renderers.
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Never got the Mac trend of not using your full screen. I get even less why Gnome copied it.
My less than 10 minutes per month of MacOS (none of which is actually doing much with it) tells me it's because of the tiny buttons on the wrong (/s) side of the window that feel impossible to press and show an up or down button and you never know which is which.
I am sure that this is totally the perfect representation of the average macos user and not just me lol
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Proper GTK4 adwaita apps don't do that. They scale really well on mobiles to desktops.
Counterargument:
Admittedly this is a chat app, so there's little to do. But still, it could stretch out a little bit more, maybe open the conversation info panel on the right
That looks like it's just wrapping a WebView, is it not?
It looks like the CSS is just capping the container class width at 1440px, which has nothing to do with GTK
It's Fractal, a matrix client, not a webview: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/fractal
Fair - point still stands though - the application only has a single breakpoint defined at 600sp from a cursory glance, the lack of an ultra-wide specific layout is just because it hasn't been implemented rather than a shortfall of GTK (though I'm not sure you would even want to make the message view wider, as it would impair readability)
What is your monitor size?
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You see the app's font size is on par with the text size of your KDE panel. If gnome increased it, it would look totally out of place.
Also centering content is a valid design choice. Many websites do that on large/wide monitors. It improves readability. An example might be the design of pi-hole's UI.
If readability is your issue on gnome on wide screen monitors you should also have issue on reading the time and date on the KDE panel as well.
2560x1080 which is 21:9 full hd. Most programs don't really handle 21:9 displays, but many GTK apps are particularly bad at it
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I enjoy using Gnome and don't really encounter any issues in my day to day use
(pls don't kill me :))
I don't like Gnome, but I am glad it works for you. At the end of the day Gnome is better than Windows, Mac, and CDE.
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I don't like using GNOME desktop or apps, but that's not because its bad or less capable for my usage. I just don't prefer their design philosophies. I'm grateful that it exists nonetheless. Linux desktop users are spoiled by how many great choices we have.
I used to be a GNOME fanatic a couple of years ago. I switched to KDE after I got tired of the perpetually broken state of extensions.
I’m still thankful for all the effort and commitment the GNOME devs have invested over the years though! It’s an excellent desktop environment!
I went the opposite way. Wanted to like KDE, but found it too buggy and a bit inconsistent.
On Gnome I use really minimal extensions and those get updated very quickly so it is no longer an issue for me. I also do Gnome Extension reviews so take from that what you will
I think what drove me to that decision was the cpufreq extension. It kept breaking with every update. I usually shrugged it off but it really irked me every time.
My last straw was when they changed the theming system to force the use of libadwaita and broke my customised theme and dark mode. I don’t do a lot of customisation in general but I have rigid preferences when it comes to how I want my system to look and behave. They broke it and that drove me to explore other solutions.
I tested KDE Plasma for a couple days and I managed to replicate my setup in like 4 hours—most of which I spent exploring new things that would be impossible to do in GNOME without modifying its code base—and the end result was an improved setup which was less clunky since I didn’t have to use as many extensions as I did with GNOME to begin with. It was bliss for me.
I ultimately decided to move on.
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Damn, did you enlarge Charlie's face for the meme? 😆
Friends don't let friends use GNOME
KDE4LYFE
Gnome does have a lot of strong points, I personally use both
Gnome apps running on my PC:
I don't use Gnome
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Why is Charlie Kirk’s face so big in this?
Okay so I remember seeing this exact post yesterday. Not that this is stolen, like this exact post. I read some of the comments and chuckled because tiny face Charlie Kirk is funny. I saw a picture of him on a video this morning and never realized that HIS FACE IS ACTUALLY KINDA LIKE THAT WHY IS IT SO SMALL AND CENTERED.
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