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Batch 6 as of last night
I don't need a laptop right now since I have a recent nvidia 3060 model, but I will probably be switching to framework after this one is no longer keeping up.
I hope they keep going up, and by the time I need a new gaming laptop again in 5+ years time they have them. Currently not really an option for me sadly, but maybe one day
I haven’t followed their activities re/ beginning to also use Ryzen chips (or at all, to be honest) recently, but I am very glad they seem to be doing well & able to produce/ship another compelling product!
Their core ideas have sounded compelling to me from the start.
Do they make anything with a good graphics card?
You can get it with a radeon rx7700s (which is around the same as a nvidia 4050 mobile)
According to notebookcheck, rx7600s is already 20% faster than 4050 mobile. And this is rx7700s.
Eh, I could live with that I guess. I'll have to take another look at these when my laptop dies.
The GPU is also upgradable. Given Framework's track record the likelihood that you will be able to upgrade it to an 8000 or 9000 series AMD GPU or even an Nvidia or ARC GPU down the line is damn near 100%.
I wouldn't even be surprised if they released an adapter that lets you plug your old GPU into a standard PCIe slot afterwards.
That's badass! I'm sold.
For $1700.
Translation: no
The fact that it's not junk in 3 years is worth a bit of a premium.
They only have 2 models. One of which (mentioned in the OP) has not been shipped yet, they just started taking orders.
Not only does the 16 model support GPUs but they are totally optional, and also can be simply swapped and upgraded at a later date. They are completely modular like a proper desktop computer.
You'll probably find other board partners selling drop-in replacements also in the near future.
What sort of Linux compatibility can we expect with this generation?
All the parts are specifically chosen to be Linux compatible. Probably why they chose the AMD GPU.
Looks like Framework has a Linux compatibility guide and the fingerprint reader is probably the thing that won't work out of the box for most distros.
Uhhhh it says "works out of the box" 🤔
For some of them. The others say "Not officially supported".
You said "for most distros". I don't see any.
Manjaro and Linux Mint are on that list and say "not officially supported."
It should be fully compatible, right? Ryzen 7 doesn't require a specific driver for Linux, it's supported by the Linux kernel. I think the only issue would be a specific driver for the GPU.
The GPU driver should already be in mesa, no?
I think it's usually things like trackpads and WiFi modules that typically have compatibility issues with Linux.
If you stick with Ubuntu LTS or Fedora you should have full support out of the box
[...] or the DIY Edition that you can configure more deeply, assemble yourself, and bring your preferred OS, including Linux. AMD has a strong focus on Linux drivers, and we provide in-house support and guides for Ubuntu LTS and Fedora.
https://frame.work/at/en/blog/framework-laptop-16-pre-orders-are-now-open
Was considering getting one early next year and so just waiting a bit before ordering one. Seeing how fast they are selling out, this might actually be quite tough, haha ^^
Same here 😅
Well for me it's gonna be a 13, but it's still expected to be delivered during Q4