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    [–] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 147 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    What a horrible day to be literate

    [–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There's no way that wasn't deliberate.

    [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 22 points 1 year ago

    Doesn't make it good.

    [–] Honza@iusearchlinux.fyi 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] Kase@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    *theire'ery'rs'

    [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
    [–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Remember everyone in the world uses the internet. Some people are in the process of learning English, and they are just starting to interact with it. I'm not a native and it was pretty hurtful when people mocked my best attempts to communicate in their language. Give him a break. I know you're joking, this is for other people planning to say something mean.

    [–] Carter@feddit.uk 110 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How do you manage to confuse there and their this much?

    [–] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The same way we confuse earnestness with trash clickbait tactics I guess

    [–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Thei might knot be from an English speiking country, so giv theim som kredid

    Edit: I guess I should have used the /s

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    From my experience, only people whose their mother tongue is English make such mistakes.

    [–] gornius@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Because they learned that from hearing, not reading so that makes sense.

    [–] Flumsy@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How would that make a difference? The words still mean different things... You just have to remember what spelling belongs to what word.

    [–] gornius@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

    English is not my first not language. When I write something down in my first language (polish), it feels more like I'm transcribing things I silently say to myself, while with english I'm actually thinking about every word I type.

    The funny thing is, the better I am getting at English, making those types of mistakes is getting easier for me.

    But idk, this is just my experience.

    [–] Turun@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

    Learning from hearing: I'll write down the word that makes this sound

    Learning as a second language: I'll write down the translation for the word I know in my native tongue.

    [–] HybridSarcasm@lemmy.hybridsarcasm.xyz 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There, there. It’ll be okay.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I find your lack of grammar... disturbing.

    [–] M137@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

    Their*

    Learn basic grammar FFS

    [–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

    The funny thing is that my win10 laptop says it can't run win 11... But my win 11 USB stick says different.

    [–] manefraim@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    The amount of woosh in this thread. Hold onto you're hats, everyone.

    [–] sirico@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

    Amiga users finally getting the recognition they deserve

    [–] comfydecal@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think this would be funny if the NSA didn't consider Linux users to be a radicalized threat

    [–] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

    That's based as hell

    [–] Index_Case@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Urgh. Wish this were true, but nope.

    Still needs waaay more effort just to do (some) simple stuff a normal person might just expect to work.

    Just installed Mint on a laptop to replace W10. Went really smoothly, and was quite impressed.

    Thought I'd try a bit of emulation with Yuzu. Wanted to use a Switch pro controller. Plug and play? Nope. Tried Xbox one controller instead. Neat. Works. I can live with that.

    But then thought I'd try a bit of Xbox game stream. No controller works with browser. Try obvious things to fix.

    Looked for answers and they're all like, someone going: oh, you just need to clone the controllerwaffelen driver from git, then just compile the installer using the command sudo apt get- monkeyshyte wtf -make then run the installer from the folder using cmake- getfuckednoob.

    I don't know what any of this is. Tried following instructions.

    And, frankly, I cannot be fucked to spend four hours finding out / troubleshooting for something I would have thought was fairly coomon.

    It's not a deal breaker, it's just another bit of faff and fuckaboutiness that puts me off. And, I suspect would others even less tech minded.

    [–] librechad@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    I understand your frustration, and I'll try to provide a solution that's as straightforward as possible. While Linux offers a lot of customization and power, it can sometimes require more technical effort for specific tasks like controller setup.

    1. Checking Compatibility: First, let's ensure your Xbox controller is compatible with Linux Mint. Most Xbox controllers should work well, but it's good to verify.

    2. Configuration: Linux Mint typically uses the XInput system for game controllers. Sometimes, extra configuration is needed to get controllers working smoothly.

    3. Reboot: It's a simple step, but sometimes restarting your computer can help resolve hardware recognition issues.

    4. Updates: Make sure your system and packages are up to date. Open a terminal and run:

      sudo apt update
      sudo apt upgrade
      
    5. Install "xboxdrv": If the built-in driver isn't working as expected, you can try installing the "xboxdrv" package, which can provide better controller compatibility. Run:

      sudo apt install xboxdrv
      
    6. Calibration: After installing xboxdrv, you can calibrate your controller by running:

      sudo xboxdrv --detach-kernel-driver --silent
      

      This command should help with controller recognition.

    7. CMake and Driver Compilation (if needed): If the previous steps don't resolve the issue and you're instructed to compile a controller driver using CMake, follow these additional steps:

      • Cloning the Repository: Use the git command to clone the controller driver repository from Git. Replace `` with the actual URL of the repository:

        git clone https://www.yourwebsite.com
        
      • Compiling the Software: Navigate to the cloned repository folder using the terminal. Create a build directory:

        mkdir build
        cd build
        

        Generate the build files with CMake:

        cmake ..
        

        Build the software:

        make
        
      • Installation: After successfully building the software, you may need to install it. This can usually be done with the following command:

        sudo make install
        
    8. Browser Game Stream: If you're using a web browser for Xbox game streaming, ensure you're using a browser that fully supports it. Google Chrome is a good choice for this.

    9. Test: Finally, test your controller in a web-based game streaming service like Xbox Cloud Gaming to see if it works as expected.

    If these steps don't resolve the issue, please provide more details about your system, controller model, and any error messages you encounter during the process. I'll do my best to assist you further.

    [–] SkinnyTimmy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] Index_Case@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

    Lol, really does read in chatGPTs "voice"...

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Mint is Debian based?

    This is gpt-satire.. i think?

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Buuuut 80% of things can just be installed via a package manager, which takes one command rather than 20 clicks.

    [–] Index_Case@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

    I agree, and that 80% was surprisingly pleasant and smooth experience, compared to my last stab at Linux, about 10 years ago. At least this time I didn't git any driver issues.

    But, that last 20% can be kind of a big deal if you need anything from within in...

    I'd like to have the time to learn how to use Linux properly, but between a full time job (unrelated to an OS), young family, and other commitments it's just not a priority.

    I had a play out of interest, and it's pretty good, but still not 100% usable "out of the box" for me. And how to do that remaining 20% is completely out of many Linux-naive users experience (using the terminal / command line). 20 clicks is easier, as all I'm doing is confirming yes or no on something, that I'm usually given enough information and context to be able to evaluate.

    And I suspect that's true of many many others. Which was the point of my original reply (which I'd hoped to be more humorous than insulting to people, but c'est la vie...).

    To try and put it in another context:

    It's really nice to be offered a lift somewhere I need to get to, but if I get kicked out the car and have to walk the remaining 20% of the way, then next time maybe I'll just get the bus/train/taxi. It might cost more, but at least I know I won't have to worry if I'll get there or not.

    Also, as a new user, I didn't know why I was seeing multiple versions of the same packages to install (flatpak etc). Googling to see which is best leads to the inevitable answer of "It depends", which a new user might not be able to answer...

    (I'm not so much speaking to you directly, and I know this is a meme post, but I'm more thinking about the handful of people in the community who seem to always reply along the lines of "people should switch to Linux, because [reason here]. And, yes, people need to learn how to x", without demonstrating any understanding of nuance around other people's competing priorities / skills / abilities.)

    Aaaaanyway, gonna go Google "Linux 101" lessons...