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Loyalty should never demand reward. Loyalty itself is the reward. Else it's just prostitution by another name. (This thought inspired by golf)

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope. I expect my cell phone company to kiss my ass a little because I've been a customer since 1998. I know you wave the fees for everyone, but lie and tell me I'm special.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

"Loyalty"

Now please continue to allow us to lie to you and syphon your data for our algorithm overlords.

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

But the expectation of reciprocated loyalty shouldn't be ignored. The idea of getting rewards for loyalty are a cracked mechanism that exists because corporations can't actually create reciprocal loyalty... And instead give you partly prizes in exchange for your extended consumerism.

[–] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Dieterlan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think is referring to how a certain golf entity (league, tournament, company, I don't remember exactly) asked golfers associated with them to not also play in a certain Saudi Arabia sponsored league, for which they would have been pretty well paid. Their reasoning was that their golfers should be "loyal" to who they were playing for, and their golfers agreed. This year that league decided "You know what we should do? We should partner with that Saudi Arabia league, and get paid handsomely for it". Their golfers have rightly pointed out the hypocrisy.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you remain loyal to someone or some entity that betrayed your trust like that? Or would a massive payday make everything OK? If being lied to and being paid off makes it better, is that loyalty? If my loyalty is abused, it doesn't get sold to the highest bidder. It's gone.

[–] Dieterlan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not looking to debate about the situation. Just trying to explain the connection between your post and golf

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Right. Sorry, I was using 'you' in a generic sense. Expanding on your comment.

[–] shoomba@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Saudi Arabia funded a new golf league called LIV. They played less golf and paid way more. We’re talking winning one LIV event paying as much some people make in winnings their entire career on the PGA Tour. So PGA tour said if you play on the LIV tour you’re banned from the PGA tour. A fair amount of decent or even big name players left anyway. Earlier this year, in only the second year of the LIV tour, the PGA tour announced they are more or less going to merge with the LIV tour. The players who did not make the jump to LIV are mad because they missed out on a big pay day and say they are due a reward and the LIV players should be penalized. Frankly to me, the LIV guys made a bet, took a chance, a risk, and it paid off and the guys who stayed played it safe and are jealous.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's called "common courtesy" OP -- which does not need to be demanded by others, but expected. And if someone calls you a cunt for your lack and/or non demonstration of the former... then it 's not a demand, but calling your attention for your lack of knowledge/ignorance.