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No one really knows how things will play out but I was wondering if people are committed to Lemmy, or would the mod team migrate to greener pastures if a better, more functional alternative comes to the forefront.

I'm hoping Lemmy can improve but I personally don't love using it. Its still early days though so that might change. There are a couple promising alternatives in development right now but since they aren't out, everyone is migrating to lemmy.

As someone with a disability, the UI/UX is problematic and makes me physically ill after using it for a short period of time.

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[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 75 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm committed to ActivityPub. I don't really care if the specific server backend ends up being lemmy, kbin, or something new.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh. I was on Mastodon for a few days then left. Turns out I don't care to follow specific people. So it's a bit more than the protocol I will chase. The type of interaction also matters a lot.

[–] timespace@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well yea, that’s not a knock against Mast, that’s a preference for a type of social media. Mast is the Twitter equivalent; if you don’t like Mast, you would t like Twitter (or vice versa as it were).

[–] therealmdubbs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the point of Twitter is to follow famous people. Since there are very few famous people on Mastodon it makes it less useful. They need celebrities and media platforms to make the switch. That's not really a problem for a link aggregator like Lemmy. I think this site has a bright future.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of people will hate me for this take but the best part of Twitter was its recommendation algorithm specifically between 2018-2021ish. The ability for everyone to meme about the same thing in the span of a few hours was fantastic and hilarious. I generally didn't give a shit about following famous people and have only been on Twitter for the meme culture.

Nowadays the algorithm is TERRIBLE though. I personally can't see myself moving to mastodon because I don't care about individual people though.

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[–] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No apollo app no reddit. I agree the UI/UX is problematic but the native reddit ad filled app is way worse. Lemmy both has lots of room to still improve the experience but its build well enough already to actually function and people to be here.

Its also open source, decentralized, possible to self host. Aka owned by the people rather then corpos. All those things for the new homepage of the internet? I can only get so errect.

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Memmy is starting to look like it could be an Apollo for Lemmy soon.

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[–] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am committed to federated services from here on out. I am personally really liking lemmy... There are some minor annoyances but nothing major. The mobile browsing experiences makes me pretty cozy. With the dark theme it's not too far from rif. Apps and plugins are coming that will make it that next special thing. Like I couldn't imagine aliensite without old and res. It's coming... I'm loving it.

[–] useful_idiot@lemmy.eatsleepcode.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m a week into having setup my own personal instance and LOVING Lemmy. The community, the software stack, federation, all of it. I don’t visit reddit daily anymore (15 year old reddit account to be deleted this week once 3rd party apps get shut down).

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[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Come on, give it some time. It's coming a long way, and devs are working their ass off to deliver some quality updates.

Also, there are a dozen apps in the works for iOS and Android that are to be released soon, if that's not already the case. So you should have more choice to pick a better experience browsing lemmy in the coming days.

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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 39 points 1 year ago

A lot of people switched to lemmy recently, so the development focus is on scaling for now. It'll probably take a while until that's sorted out properly and the devs can focus on accessibility.

I think lemmy is a good place for this community because we don't need to worry about big platforms overmoderating.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not necessarily committed to Lemmy, but I am fairly committed to a fediverse Reddit-like app. And Lemmy is the one I've liked the most. The nice thing is, if something comes along that you prefer, you could switch to that and we'd still be able to interact.

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[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like to remember how ugly and difficult it was to adjust to Reddit after moving from Digg's slick 2.0 interface. I think Lemmy will face more growing pains but will be the best solution in the end.

Reddit has literally never had a good UI/UX. It was worth it because it was the best alternative at the time.

That said, my requirements for a reddit alternative would have to be decentralized and open source. I just couldn't get into another situation like this one and I won't support it.

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[–] hiajen@feddit.de 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.

But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I started on Mastodon last year and watching it increase in size by orders of magnitude over the last several months has been a beautiful thing to watch. I am thrilled Lemmy has taken off, finally. The fediverse has restored my faith in humanity quite a bit and consuming it feels healthier, there is no way I am going back to centralised platforms. Come to mastodon and get a glimpse at what Lemmy may become. :)

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was talking to my non-techie wife yesterday and she asked what I was working on. I said "replacing reddit." I explained the reddit situation and then we talked about alternative social networking and I was shocked she knew what Mastodon was AND said a lot of people were moving there!

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

Welcome the normies, we need them too. :)

[–] itsAsin@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it DOES feel healthier, doesn't it? since starting here yesterday, i have been retraining my hand to not click on reddit. but honestly, i don't even want to.

i am willing to commit to lemmy.

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[–] equalszero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago

A piracy forum needs to be decentralised and based on FOSS software to be able to have quality content, we are not advertisement friendly lol.

Lemmy is the best option.

If not Lemmy then maybe a discourse forum but that would be even worse for mobile users.

Lemmy will only get better from now on, but tbh I prefer its UI over other alternatives official app.

[–] alex@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago

I'm committed to open source (or at the very least indie dev) more than to a single platform.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm obviously very committed. But I understand the frustration. However be a bit patient, the interest in the Software is just beggining and it has a completely open API. Great frontends will be developed very shortly

[–] Bulldozer0781@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

As a user of old.reddit I really don't even find this interface to be much different. It really seems to be similar. Some of the issues I see as confusing comes to the federation specific things. As someone new to federation but from a technical background even I am finding that aspect confusing. So I imagine for people less tech savvy it would be an even harder learning curve. The idea of going to a completely separate domain, but being able to still subscribe to their community via the dbzer0 account is a totally different kind of concept and the UI can make it a bit complicated.

But overall using one specific instance feels very similar to the old.reddit UI if not slightly nicer in my opinion.

[–] Uriel238@lemmy.fmhy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

I'd think that we're here for the quality of our experience and not for loyalty to a specific platform. Lemmy has some great advantages, especially for those of us fresh from Reddit who are sick and tired of corporate shennanigans and enshitification.

There's lemmy politics which seems about disagreements that may or may not lead to defederating. But this isn't for me a dealbreaker, and Reddit corporate made it super clear that it was on the side of the conservatives even if it found their hate speech brand-unsafe. My kind were not liked, and we could expect spittle in our drinks now and again.

So what would woo me away from Lemmy? Only if I found subs of my interests that I couldn't find here, and then I'd haunt both platforms.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

I am more than willing to wait for Lemmy to grow to see where it heads since it's only been a thing since 2019.

Despite it having its fair share of problems, I am more than willing to put up with this for now since we're still scratching the surface on the potential of a decentralized social media becoming a little more mainstream.

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We're just getting started. Sync for Lemmy and Memmy's (heavily inspired by Apollo) release in a few weeks will go a long way for accessibility, and will likely already offer better UX than reddit.

No doubt contributors in the GitHub will add similar UX features as those fantastic apps once they're out.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@vlemmy.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will switch if something better comes along that is decentralized.

The profit motive poisons everything and turns it to shit. I won't join a social again if it can be purchased to turn me into another metric on a spreadsheet for someone to sell.

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[–] UdeRecife@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been a redditor for more than 16 years. Due the the recent events, I've been through my comments/submission history, noticing how much more active I was in the beginning. For the past, I don't know, 5 or more years, I've been just lurking less and less, to the point that when it came to delete my content and account, I didn't even have any regrets. Just did it, and that was it.

Now comes the fediverse. Here I am, commenting again, actively checking what's happening here with a renewed enthusiasm. So yes, I'm excited for it being FOSS, federated, decentralized. By the people, for the people. Yay!

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[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

IMO, the solution is not to switch to something better, but to communicate to the developers on how to make the UI/UX better

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[–] sixfold@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really like the idea. There one major issue that I see currently, and that is discoverability. It takes some real effort and time to explore things outside of your own instance. I think the federation of pre-federation content will be important for discoverability, since the foundation of a community is in it's ranking of posts, which takes time and interaction. Right now, votes, comments, and most posts pre-federation on another instance are just not reachable.

I believe this problem can be solved, and there are a lot of motivated developers here, so I'm all in on lemmy.

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[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

if its not lemmy it should at least be ActivityPub compliant so users can make the decision how to follow, participate

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago

Personally I will try to be active in contributing to ideas for lemmy improvement. If you are having a problem in the UI/UX part of lemmy. Then is is a good idea to let your voice be heard and suggest some QOL improvements. That way the devs have more options to look at when considering some UI/UX alterations.

[–] Naomikho@monyet.cc 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am pretty committed. I even volunteered to help with devops stuff with my country's instance to make it a better experience for the local community. I actually wished more communities move here.

[–] Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I‘m committed to decentralized social media, so for now that’s this and kbin yeah.

I hope though that eventually a better UI in some app can help with your disability, being physically ill doesn‘t sound like a good time at all.

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm really into the Fediverse, so it would have to be another Fediverse software.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I think the thing there is if it's federated it'll probably end up federating with lemmy anyway

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the number of new apps coming out, hopefully somebody will come up with one that you can use without feeling physically ill. There's going to be a lot of options in a few weeks.

Have you considered writing up what exactly is problematic about the UI? Maybe it's something that can be resolved

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[–] shapis@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been here for a few years now. It's the same as always. Use a site til it turns evil/bad, then move on, someone else will take its place.

I love the idea of lemmy tho. and so far so good. But dont be married or make it personal if something turns bad online.

[–] dillekant@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fediverse apps (though not Lemmy yet because they sort of accidentally exploded in popularity) let you migrate your data. This is the killer app, so there's very little opportunity for Lemmy to "go bad". Unlike Reddit where this sort of thing has to be built out separately and Reddit itself may take action (such as removing API, because they think they own your data), Fediverse explicitly has the functionality so you can move. This means moving from Lemmy to some other fedi-app should be fairly easy.

[–] surrendertogravity@wayfarershaven.eu 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately migration isn’t built into Lemmy yet, but I’d guess it’s on their feature wishlist.

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[–] ragnarokonline@vlemmy.net 14 points 1 year ago

Lemmy? Not specifically committed to Lemmy forever, but I very much see myself using it as my top Social Media 2-3 years from now.

I’m really invested that Lemmy (and the Fediverse in general) is only going to get more awesome.

I’m just the past few weeks we’ve seen growth in not only the infrastructure, apps, and features of Lemmy, but there’s really great conversations happening around how the community is growing and possible threats to the system from big corps.

I think the Fediverse is a great place and is a great future of “Social Media”.

Even if no one else joins Fedi, I think we have enough entertaining content and news to sustain me for a long time. More people will join, though. Things will keep getting better, but it will take time.

Fuck Reddit, Fuck Twitter, Fuck FAANG. I hope distributed is the future.

[–] yarr@lemmy.fmhy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Why WOULDN'T we move off if something better came along?

[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 13 points 1 year ago

I think being open to change is good. Right now, I'm committed to lemmy. There are a few wrinkles here and there, so I'm hoping those things get sorted out.

However, if it turns to shit or a much better one comes along, then I'll definitely consider moving. Individually that's easy. For a community, though, it might be challenging.

[–] Quarky@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think being commited no-matter-what to any product is unhealthy. Lemmy looks great so far, despite still being early in development. But there's also kbin and other alternatives that might improve significantly in the future - if they do, I see no reason to not change the platform.

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