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    [–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 122 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    How many Steam deck users are looking up porn?

    [–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I hope you dock it first or you’re going to end up with a sprained wrist and a sticky deck.

    [–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago

    ... Don't kink shame me

    [–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Is it comfortable to use with a single hand? Asking for a friend.

    [–] Darorad@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 55 points 11 months ago

    They meant the steam deck

    [–] 0ops@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

    New-to-me technology never feels broken in and truly "mine" until that first wack

    [–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I missed the "PornHub" in the corner at first. Maybe I won't share this with colleagues...

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    [–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

    That's my go to comment for most posts here 🥲

    [–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] ramble81@lemm.ee 43 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I hate when people say “oh we had 100% growth!” Ignoring the fact they went from 4 to 8 clients. Meanwhile the one that only shows 0.5% growth considers 8 people a rounding error.

    There’s liars, damn liars and statisticians.

    [–] ISMETA@lemmy.zip 25 points 11 months ago
    [–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Okay, so here's some more easily interpreted numbers. In addition to having the largest change in traffic share relative to its previous share, Linux actually had the largest change in actual traffic share. It was just BARELY above Mac OS. If more significant digits were allowed here, Linux rose 0.0085 while Mac OS rose 0.0082.

    OS 2023 Share 2022 Share Share Change
    Windows 0.632 0.647 -0.015
    Mac OS 0.292 0.284 0.008
    Linux 0.036 0.027 0.009
    Chrome Book 0.029 0.026 0.003
    Other 0.011 Unknown* 0.005*

    2022 percentages computed as:

    share_2022 = share_2023 / ( 1 + relative_percent_change )
    

    and percent change computed as:

    absolute_percent_change = share_2023 - share_2022
    

    * The relative percent change for "other" is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.005 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the "other" category.

    Last year's results

    I just found last year's results. It looks like my math bears out, though it appears that they rounded differently.

    Notably, last year's changes were very different.

    OS 2022 Share 2021 Share Share Change
    Windows 0.647 0.646 0.001
    Mac OS 0.284 0.273 0.011
    Linux 0.028 0.028 0.000**
    Chrome Book 0.025 0.025 0.000**
    Other 0.011 Unknown*** 0.015***

    ** Linux and Chrome Book's absolute change was less than 0.0005.

    *** As with 2023, the percentage change for "other" is not reported in the graphic. There is a remainder of 0.012 in the Share Change which is, presumably, attributable to change in the "other" category. This seems large, though, given that the total traffic share for "other" is only 0.016. That would imply a change from 0.001 to 0.012. Looking at the 2021 numbers this doesn't appear to be correct.

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    [–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Is it that Linux is getting popular, or that most people don't buy new computers anymore now that their phone does everything they used it for, so it's only the enthusiasts still buying?

    [–] themoken@startrek.website 18 points 11 months ago

    That's an interesting thought. I've wondered this about Chrome's market share in browsers too. How much of it is just that so much traffic is now from phones where, even if you have another browser installed, apps open links in embedded Chrome web views.

    [–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

    Do we really want to be bigger anyway? I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn't really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

    (And I know it's huge for servers and malware also targets that, but they are usually maintained by professionals, not your parents that would probably run every shell script they are offered as help)

    If Linux would become the biggest desktop os you are going to find so much more bad advice whenever searching for help online. I wonder if the nice people we have now are really ready for when the terrible people invade the community.

    [–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Do we really want to be bigger anyway?

    YES. It needs more market share to influence companies financially to make products for it.

    It's truly starting to make inroads recently, but it still has a ways to go.

    I kind of like where Linux as a desktop isn’t really big enough for all the scammers and malware makers to care.

    It's also not big enough for gaming companies to truly care, unfortunately.

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    [–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

    Perhaps a little lesd nice for those of us already using linux, but definitely better for the majority of people for getting less scammed by big corps. But one plus for us would be better support for apps and games that are still mostly or exclusively on other OSes.

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    [–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    If we combine that with the stat of 91.3% mobile users vs. 7.2% desktop users (ignoring the 1.5% tablets), that means:
    93.8% of all Pornhub visitors used an OS based on BSD or Linux.
    ( 100 x 0.913 x 0.998 + 100 x 0.072 x 0.368 )

    [–] SapphironZA@lemmings.world 30 points 11 months ago

    Year of the Steamdeck. Praise Gaben!

    [–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
    [–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    .2 to 3.6%

    itshappening.gif

    [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Literally all Steam Decks

    Praise Gaben

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    [–] Luky3000@feddit.de 26 points 11 months ago

    Linux is cumming my friends. 🥳

    [–] ExLisper@linux.community 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Nah, it was all me. All of it.

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    [–] SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

    Unless the number of GNU/Linux maintainers also matches the growing userbase, we're heading towards a world of pain.

    Devs overrun by unhelpful bug reports, scammers and malware abound, forums stretched beyond capacity by the exact same queries.

    If PC Linux can be monetized, it will be.

    [–] Toldry@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    I'm actually looking into buying a new laptop and seriously considering choosing some Linux distro as my new OS (I've always used Windows before, and Mac once for work)

    How do y'all recommend which laptop I should choose?

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Whatever you do, pick one that ships with Linux or is at least explicitly marked as compatible.

    You do not want the headache of having a laptop with this one component that genuinely doesn't work properly. Most will work, but for example fingerprint scanners are a very touchy subject. My freakin battery is not properly recognized by anything that isn't Windows. It's stupid, some just don't care about existing, well defined, open standards.

    Personally I'd go with a Framework laptop. Otherwise Tuxedo or System76 might have something you like.

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    [–] dan@upvote.au 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I just preordered a Framework 16 inch because their concept is amazing and early reviews are pretty good. It's a laptop where every part is replaceable and upgradable. You can replace/upgrade the motherboard/CPU, RAM, NVMe storage, keyboard, display, etc. all yourself, and they sell the parts separately. Even the ports on the sides are swappable - you can choose to make them all USB-C ports, or make any of them USB-A, 3.5mm audio, 2.5Gbps Ethernet, DisplayPort, HDMI, MicroSD reader, etc.

    They have a 13 inch version that's already shipping today... The 16 inch is a preorder to ship Q2 2024. Their newer ones use an AMD CPU and AMD graphics which should work better on Linux than Nvidia graphics.

    More expensive than a regular laptop company though... They don't have the scale that Dell, Lenovo, etc have so parts are more expensive for them (plus large R&D costs).

    [–] AlfredEinstein@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

    I've been happy with every thinkpad I've put Mint on.

    Look at the refurbished ones on ebay

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    [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 14 points 11 months ago

    The three linux users finally found a friend to masturbate with. Leading to a 33% increase in linux user visit.

    [–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    2024 will be the year of the GNU/Linux desktop!

    [–] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

    As will be every year after that

    [–] teft@startrek.website 12 points 11 months ago
    [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    If you combined the ages of my children it still wouldn't be enough time to the first time I heard this.

    [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 11 months ago

    Because of your newborn twins, right?

    [–] juli@programming.dev 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    6.5% of all desktop users is insane

    What's other? Freebsd?

    What about the streaming share? Like, who is watching the most?

    [–] atocci@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Hubi@feddit.de 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Heresy. It was gods will to not include networking capabilities.

    [–] Jamie@jamie.moe 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    There are heretical forks that add it in though

    [–] tourist@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    are you telling me there are legit templeOS denominations lmao

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

    Other can be consoles

    [–] pewpew@feddit.it 7 points 11 months ago

    Linux users are coming

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