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I know we had posts like this before, but Immich deserves πŸ‘

One more update, one less container, the best Google Photos alternative, its just amazing!!

Don't forget to edit your docker-compose before updating

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

the color scheme of that icon physically hurts to look at

[–] juli@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

Time to use arcticons

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Noticed it stopped working yesterday, wasnt at home so I couldn't really get into it, just checked the docker logs via portainer on the go and was like "wtf is this error?!" Was relieved when I learned what the issue was and that it's just a restructuring of the containers.

While it can be unnerving that they don't shy away from breaking things in order to improve the service, it's actually a very good thing and keeps the app from getting bogged down in some "but backwards compatibility"legacy code hell (wonder what some people in Redmond would know about that). Let's just hope that they never publish an update that permanently breaks things when you haven't followed a very strict weird update procedure or something.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago

They have mentioned that once out of dev/alpha status they will figure out proper release versioning so you can pin a major version and not get breaking changes.

[–] Discover5164@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you should exclude the immich stack from auto-updating and subscribe to immich releases.

most of the time will just be a docker compose pull && docker compose up -d && docker compose logs -f

[–] Ramenator@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

And for the love of god don't go for latest, just stick to the release tags

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do not have docker containers auto update.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or, if you do have it auto-update (like I do) prepare for things to break every now and then. I auto-update just about all containers except those that would break either my home automation or my ability to login to my network and fix things. Everything else auto-updates, including Immich.

My Immich broke this weekend when they switched the stack over to pgvecto, to use vector searching in Postgres. Easily fixed, but took me a solid minute to figure out what had changed.

Which is kinda weird they didn't communicate this one so well. In the lead-up to v.1.88.0, Alex made an announcement on Github to let people know the breaking change was the removal of the web container from the stack, rolling the webserver into the main server container itself. That was a good move, as all I did was flip my Watchtower container on that host to monitor only.

Dunno why they didn't do something similar for the Postgres change. Was just as breaking.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Updating software that's in such early development without reading the release notes is foolish.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it hard to breathe in that rarified air, up on your high horse?

I'll keep taking my calculated risks. You keep judging strangers on the internet. πŸ‘

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

roofuskit is right. Unless you use it as secondary method of backing up your memories - it is foolish. There are constant breaking changes that requires modification to Docker-Compose for Immich project. But you do you. :) I am not Google to tell you what to do. πŸ˜…

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Immich saves pictures on the filesystem, where they are easily picked up by all my backup solutions. My pictures also get uploaded on NextCloud before being moved to Immich's auto-upload folder.

... Where exactly is the risk for my precious memories? The bloody thing could rm -rf /* for all I care.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 2 points 11 months ago

Immich's repo explicitly states not to rely on it as a primary backup of your photos and videos. Seems to me the more foolish thing would be to ignore that advice.

Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unless the container follows semver and only auto updates minor versions.

Edit : Which Immich isn't.

[–] Brtrnd@feddit.nl 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

How do ppl think of immich Vs photoprism? I dislike photoprism because every action takes 10 seconds

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

For me Photoprism is unusable for the simple fact that they don't support multiple users. Also Photoprism doesn't have an official app which I can easily use on my phone to sync photos.

[–] palitu@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

yeah the simple workflow of the app -> immich server makes it seamless. i think that is the magic part of immich, the barrier to entry for getting your photos in (and the WAF) is key.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 11 months ago

I've just set up an Immich server and the UI is nice and uploading is quite fast. Waiting for Google takeout to finish so I can import my whole library....

Also your Lemmy account is marked as a bot btw. Some people block bot accounts.

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Photoprism has different approach. Last time I tried I wasn't impressed. Immich, on the other hand, gives me almost identical experience to Google Photos. I was heavily using Google Photos, so this is probably the reason why I am pro-immich.

[–] slampisko@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Looks interesting, thanks for the rec!

Is there a way to semi-easily import my Google Photos archive?

[–] dodekaphilist@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

+1 for it. Used it previously and just recently. Works like a charm!

[–] garbles0808@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can use Google Takeout to request all of your Google photos to be downloaded

[–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And don't forget to change the default file export size. The default is 2gb, which for me resulted in over 300 files to download and there's no easy to way to automate it. 50gb is max which was much better for me

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[–] dadrad@midwest.social 6 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the reminder to check my docker compose file. I finally deployed immich for the family last week. I had tried it before, but held out for external libraries.

We never really used Google photos or iCloud, so having a similar experience with the library on my NAS is amazing.

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Installed it because of this thread to my homelab today. I never really managed my phone images in any way, never uploaded them anywhere. This was the first time. About 5 gigabytes of images and videos were synced to my NAS in a few minutes, now I can search them and all that. It's a pretty cool setup, although the installation is a bit tricky if you don't go to the path they give you. I run a Postgres server in Proxmox, and you have to install just the right version of pgvecto.rs for the system to work.

Browsing the issues I was able to figure out what went wrong, and after downgrading, no issues.

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[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

The only thing preventing me to move from photoview to immich is the lack of sorting/viewing photos by folder hierarchy. I love the UI and the machine learning customisation options. They recently added the "external albums" feature, so I am hoping this folder hierarchy thing, too, will soon be implemented.

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
NAS Network-Attached Storage
RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC
SBC Single-Board Computer

2 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 5 acronyms.

[Thread #360 for this sub, first seen 17th Dec 2023, 14:15] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The only thing holding me back with Immich has been the non-obvious back end storage options.

I'd like to keep my data in an S3 bucket, but from what I can tell it's still unsupported because of some limitations with fuse.

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just a question - are you considering AWS unlimited S3 storage where you pay-as-you-use?

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yes. I want to put it into cloud storage that I control and can move around as required, so that I can't run out of space. And so that I don't need to manage a local physical drive.

[–] palitu@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i semi-agree. i added a feature request explicitly asking for that in the really early days of the project.

What i REALLY want from the project is adding to the 3-2-1 type of backup strategy. I want it to also store a backup in an external system. something like local filesystem like it is now, then have a versioned type of backup in an S3 compatible buckets (backblaze B2??). something like a simple borg backup or other incremental backup system.

since it talks a lot about backup of photos, i dont really see it is a backup solution.

note: i LOVE immich

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 11 months ago

I think I'll have to do this myself, separately.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

After seeing this post I finally gave it a whirl. After a few days of use, I've decided to stick with photoprism. It's interesting to see how they each have different strengths. I think immich looks more promising, but I ran into problems with a ton of missing thumbnails, map photo clusters that weren't actionable, black panorama images, and some things in the UI that I just wasn't into. Great app though! It's really exciting to see multiple self hosted image apps being developed. I kept my launch configs and customizations and will give it another look in 3-6 months.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Any idea how it compares to Synology Photos?

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea, but I heard only good things about both of them

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[–] agimus@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I am a bit confused what is meant by:

"You can do this by connecting to the immich database as a superuser and running..."

How do I connect to the database exactly?

[–] doeknius_gloek@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

Use something like pgAdmin, DBeaver or the pg cli to connect to your postgres instance. Then run the command from the changelog as a SQL query.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago

You only need to do this in a specific scenario, "Note: If you are running your database with a non-superuser role for Immich"

If you're running the docker stack that immich provides you don't need to do this.

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