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[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 211 points 1 year ago (11 children)
[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago

This was the original cyberpunk-transhumanist message. Not "cybernetics will destroy your soul" but "corporations own your body, or worse parts of your body"

[–] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 71 points 1 year ago

That's a new hell-on-eath I wasn't aware of. Yikes.

[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A good argument for open source

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] oce@jlai.lu 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Terrifying. No government bailout for improving people's life quality...

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[–] FIST_FILLET@kbin.social 130 points 1 year ago (13 children)

imagine physically embedding the fucking musk into your brain, VOLUNTARILY. i can't imagine anything worse in the world

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

People are still driving Teslas right now. Pretty much the same in my book. You're trusting your life to a proven moron.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Elongated Muskrat has very little to do with the inner works of the company now. Even in the heights of his involvement, by his own account, his input was tangential at best, like "we make expensive car now, use this money to make cheaper car" and "we call it x because x is the best name ever"

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 112 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Musk is doing more to make people realize how garbage capitalism is than Marx ever could.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to thank Facebook for making it blatantly obvious to us that we should never get any brain implants. They'll definitely use them to read your thoughts and push ads straight into your consciousness. Oh, and you'll probably have to pay a subscription.

[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your tinnitus will get progressively louder until you pay your bill

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Hello Satan. I didn't realize you use Lemmy.

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[–] crow@beehaw.org 69 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I’m not putting anything in me that’s not foss. I worry for the tech illiterate though when they eventually adopt this idea.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

I agree, I love the idea of a brain chip, but not if someone can change licensing terms on something that's INSTALLED in me.

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 64 points 1 year ago

There'e not enough knowledge and connectivity in the entire internet that could convince me to ever put a connection directly to my mind online.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.de 56 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I'm sure these implants will give much needed ease to patients who suffer frem tremors like parkinson and other neurological diseases. But the things I'm mostly concerned about are:

  • Will health insurance pay for the implant in a one-time-payment? Will it be a subscription model? What happens when you can't pay your subscription? Will it be shut off?
  • Will the implant be operated through firmware (like a pacemaker) or software, which reqires frequent updates? If so, will there be - like computer software - "new features" implemented ("With version 2.0 you will be able to share your Neuralink experience with other Neuralink users. Your data may not be leaked, pinky promise."
  • What if a certain mentally unstable CEO throws a tantrum that will affect the performance of the Neuralink implant negatively? Will there be any legal protection from such thing?
[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thought that frightens me even more (although I am not a neurologist) is that if this is installed in children, and the neural pathways for the child's basic functions are formed to pass through that implant, removing the implant will render the child unable to think.

[–] alizard@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh god, new horrors just dropped

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[–] Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] atyaz@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I accidentally uninstalled the visual cortex drivers and now I can't use my eyes to reinstall, any help is appreciated

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[–] astral_avocado@programming.dev 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Neuralink is an excellent advancement for brain science and it is greatly going to help disabled people and those with little function left over their bodies. It's okay to celebrate this technology while also hating musk.

Like SpaceX, they've both been excellent ventures that he so far hasn't ruined (probably thanks to the people he delegates to). Just because it's fashionable to hate him for how he's absolutely fucked over Twitter (which i'll remind everyone we've always hated and agreed is bad, use Mastodon instead) doesn't mean his other companies largely spearheaded by others, and their results, are also bad.

That's not even to mention that the kind of dystopian technology people are imagining isn't anywhere close to what the Neuralink device is actually capable of. What everyones fearmongering over is still just science fiction. It's just barely able to interpret brain signals, it's not as powerful as everyone makes it out to be.

2nd edit: forgot what instance I'm on, this comment probably ain't going to do well lol

[–] stingpie@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The big issue I have with brain chips is longevity. How long until the electrodes degrade? When will the chips fail? Once they fail, will it be fail safe or fail deadly? Also, what will be the power source? Will it use inductive power, or battery power? They are both awful options. What if the chip overheats? The implementation is the real question here, but neuralink refuse to give any answers because it proprietary.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not even to mention that the kind of dystopian technology people are imagining isn't anywhere close to what the Neuralink device is actually capable of.

Yet. They'll get to work on that just as soon as they can, don't you worry!

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[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow, who did Elon have to fuck to get FDA approval for a brain chip that's killed numerous test subjects.

Edit: Just a friendly reminder that ublock, sponsorblock, newpipe x sponsorblock, libretube, youtube piped exist

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[–] meldroc@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A long time ago I read some cyberpunk novel, and one of the characters had an ocular implant that got infected with malware that flashed spam ads for Indian brothels in his vision 24/7, even with his eyes closed, until he went completely postal.

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[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago

Fox Viewers: 'Don't get vaccinated because there are brain controlling microchips hidden in the jab.' Also Fox Viewers: 'I can't wait to get one of Elon's brain chips to own the libs!'

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There comes the time you have to root your own brain and install CyanogenMod 23.0 "BrainIac" on it, maybe "TorView" and "OpenMath" too. I recommend "FreeTaste 2.0" as an addon.

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[–] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On one hand I'm excited for what the tech can do for medical purposes and future applications... On the other hand I'm terrified on what governments and corporations have in mind for it, cause I guarantee it will not be good

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Looking forward to the eventual open source/Linux version of this lol.

My brain runs Arch BTW

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[–] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the FDA approved of lobotomizing a select few of desperate people to satiate the narcissistic impulses of its founder. Anyone else wanna take a ride in this plastic submarine???

[–] WNichArk@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Uh, it's a "submersible" and it's not plastic, it's throwaway expired carbon fiber from Boeing...

[–] HippieSplash@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

As someone who suffers daily from a traumatic brain injury 5 years ago that's caused me to become physically disabled and cognitively declined, I'm super excited about this.

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[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think of this as being straight up horrifying. This isn't exciting, this is going to be dystopian nightmare fuel. It's not hard to imagine this being imbedded into human beings against their will too, like prisoners in the US.

I would rather be a Borg, at least they were motivated by a collective good will to move to perfection, not puppets of a dying capitalist state and it's related ideology.

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[–] tjaden@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Kalkaline@lemmy.one 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60416058 related. It's going to be a subscription service and Musk is going to have his fanboys hooked in for the short life of the company.

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[–] Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't wait to sell my excess brain power to crypto miners

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[–] Granite@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Even if Muskrat weren’t involved, this still has a hell no from me. You leave me and the voices alone.

Although Star Wars cybernetic hands would be dope.

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[–] camillaSinensis@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Brain-computer/machine interfaces are really interesting when treating conditions like paralysis or Parkinson's disease, and to a certain extent severe psychiatric conditions if you count deep brain stimulation for e.g. severe OCD. I don't think we'll be anywhere near sending detailed multisensory content like ads into people's brains for a long time though. That's so far outside the scope of what brain stimulation can do right now, it's really just scifi.

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[–] object_Object@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah nothing is even going close to my brain unless the hardware itself is open source

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just wait until it's not technically mandatory, but you can't do your taxes, find a job or participate in society without beaming ads straight to your brain.

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[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember that episode in Futurama where they got personalized ads fed to their brains while they slept?..... 😔

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[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LastWeekTonight made an interesting episode about medical devices and how they are cleared or approved. The OP's post is about approval for human trials, but I think Neuralink getting approved for the market by FDA and then ruining many lives anyway is a real possibility.

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[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Pretty soon you'll be required to get one of these as a condition of employment. Just watch.

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