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i wouldn't normally be concerned since any company releasing a VR product with this price tag is obviously going to fail... but it's apple and somehow through exquisite branding and sleek design they have managed to create something that resonated with "tech reviewers" and rich folk who can afford it.

what's really concerning is that it's not marketed as a new VR headset, it's marketed by apple and these "tech reviewers" as the new iphone, something you take with you everywhere and do your daily tasks in, consume content in etc...

and it's dystopian. imagine you are watching youtube on this thing and when an ad shows up, you can't look away, even if you try to they can track your eye movement and just move the window, you can't mute it, you certainly cannot install adblock on it, you are forced to watch the ad until it satisfies apple or you just give up and take out the headset.

this is why i think all these tech giants (google meta apple etc) were/are interested in the "metaverse". it holds both your vision and your hearing hostage, you cannot do anything else when using it but to just use the thing. a 100% efficiency attention machine, completely blocking you from the outside world.

i'm not concerned about this iteration as much as people are not hyped about this iteration. just like how people are hyped about the next apple vision, i'm more worried about the next iterations with somewhat lower price tag and better software availability. i hope it flops and i know it probably won't achieve any sort of mainstream adoption even if it's deemed a success because it probably can't get less bulky and look less dorky, but the possibility is still worrying. what are your thoughts?

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[–] aniki@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I worry about how consumerism and capitalism will kill us all but I don't give a shit about this in particular. If I saw one in the wild the first thing I would do is give the owner and endless stream of shit for buying such a stupid waste of money.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

People said exactly the same thing about smart phones when they first came out.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If anything weird happens some hacker man would probably put up a tutorial on how to disable the eye tracker.

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I am pretty concerned. I think if work from home or hybrid jobs start requiring devices similar to the apple vision pro, it will only further the divide between people that work from home and those that don't, as well as increasing the barrier to entry to these jobs. Dividing the working class further.

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

It seems like a company that would require employee-purchased headsets would already require employee-purchased laptops. Do you know of any? Honest question; I don't, but my bubble is pretty small.

[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I just don't understand how Apple, a company known for their sleek, elegant design aesthetics above all else, put their name on something that looks so dorky

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[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

any company releasing a VR product with this price tag is obviously going to fail…

Varjo is doing very well and offers probably the best VR sets. Prices start at around 3000€

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[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

giant companies try stupid marketing techniques like this all the time. when they're moronic and nobody can afford them, they fail.

I don't think I've seen a single normal tech reviewer that didn't talk about serious drawbacks to the platform. the only people who are sucking apple's dick are those frou-frou amalgamated tech click harvesters that always suck the big corporations' dicks. like the Verge

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

and it’s dystopian. imagine you are watching youtube on this thing and when an ad shows up, you can’t look away, even if you try to they can track your eye movement and just move the window, you can’t mute it, you certainly cannot install adblock on it, you are forced to watch the ad until it satisfies apple or you just give up and take out the headset.

I don't see any difference to an iPhone there. If they wanted to, they could already track whether you're looking at the ad (using the camera) or whether you muted it. You can turn off an iPhone, you can take off a Vision Pro. Apple hasn't exactly been known for intrusive ads either.

[–] jayrhacker@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

imagine you are watching youtube on this thing and when an ad shows up, you can’t look away, even if you try to they can track your eye movement and just move the window, you can’t mute it, you certainly cannot install adblock on it, you are forced to watch the ad until it satisfies apple

WUT? Apple is very focused on privacy and the idea that a user can't mute or install Adblock is… weird. Safari has good ad-blocking options as well as built-in anti-tracking features to protect users, applications can't usually prevent the system from muting content and Apple doesn't really sell ads outside of the App Store.

If you want to worry about that stuff I'd suggest focusing on the Meta VR goggles or god forbid Google starts making goggles, both of those companies survive on ad revenue and have an incentive to enshitify their experience in ways that the Apple we know today would never do. Of course companies can change over time, but the ethic at Apple is to only make products they feel comfortable with their families using.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Had to scroll down pretty far to find this. I don’t see any ads on my Apple devices, because it’s not their thing. And when people try and serve ads, I don’t see them anyways. Because I VPN through my home network with a dns blocker.

No, I don’t want to root my phone and load a new OS on it. And I certainly don’t want a phone with the Facebook app preinstalled. I feel like people having nightmares about VR ads are having a tough time.

With all that said, I wouldn’t pay close to $3500 for this thing.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Doesn't it have something like a two-hour battery life? Feel like that excludes it from being something you carry around with you like a phone.

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