this post was submitted on 12 Feb 2024
109 points (96.6% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5237 readers
437 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 11 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is great, now the curmudgeons of other countries can stop using "what about China" as an excuse for their backwards climate attitudes.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago

But what about India?

[–] loki@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

but will they? absolutely not.

For some groups of people, facts don't matter and people just use it because of their prejudice. They'll simply call it "fake news"

[–] schizoidman@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

The amount of salt in wsj comment section is amazing

[–] Electricorchestra@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been saying for a while that China will quickly decarbonize. The Chinese government doesn't think in a 4. They also don't need to listen to the citizens fight back about environmental laws as the citizens can't. It's also worth noting that when disasters keep striking its time to change the Emporer so saving the climate is saving themselves.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

think in a 4

What does this mean?

[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Probably missing "...year cycle"

[–] Nolvamia@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

IIRC, the Mandarin for "four" sounds similar to "death", so it is considered unlucky/inauspicious. I think OP was subtly suggesting that the CCP would rather do something to avoid the consequences of climate change than not. Those consequences including social upheaval, resulting in an unhappy populace, resulting in their possible removal from power.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

Good. With China being the biggest source of co2 emissions in the world, at 28% of global emissions as of 2020, this means that the faster they get their shit together, the longer we have before the doomsday clock ticks midnight.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago

Here we go. Chinas economy is slowing down and it is finally happening. That hopefully means we have had peak emissions globally.

[–] tiredcapillary@iusearchlinux.fyi 0 points 9 months ago

China being the way it is makes me doubtful. I wouldn't hold my breath but if or when it happens or works it'll be a good start.

The wording I noticed is that the headline says 'new electricity demand' which may or may not be meaningful to offset enough waste. So at the end of the day, we'll see.