Make people aware of it?? I’m on lemmy all day and filtering by all and local and saw like two passing references to this.
Canvas
Canvas — The Fediverse’s r/place
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Definitely contact bigger instance admins and get a sticky post going before/during the events
Yeah p.d admin here. I only found out about the event when someone in my instance made a comment referencing it when it was underway.
Getting contacts with admins of various instances ready to give them information as new events roll around is going to be key for growing participants. If people want I can set up a matrix chat for showing off and giving info for future lemmy events and then that can be centralized into there instead of needing to do separate dms.
Theres already an instance admin chat but would likely drown out the event posts since there's other topics discussed in there
I sent a couple messages into the Lemmy Instance admins Matrix room, but a lot of instances ignored the posts I made 😅
lemmy.world was voting internally on when to announce it but the event would've been over before the internal voting concluded they are interested in joining the next event tho 👀
and to any Lemmy instance admins reading this, join the admin room so you can be aware of the next one :)
Hexagon pixels. (Or weirdly shaped areas to be filled). It would force more creativity and get rid of all designs from previous rounds.
Weirdly shaped canvas yes, weirdly shaped pixels no, in my opinion. Not until I have a computer with hexagon pixels.
Doing a theme each year with an appropriately shaped canvas would make each year feel distinct
I'd like the option to place white pixels on virgin white pixels as a form of grief protection.
same really helped create art, i would like to see this in the future
Offical user stats after it is done. Maybe a map to see all your placed pixels? Something like that.
Placement data is available in the official final post, it's up to us to process it into nice maps. I expect that to happen in the coming days.
Run an extra day or two, so everyone gets some weekend and week day? Between shift workers and countries with different weekends, Sat/Sun is still a workday for many.
Thursday-Monday feels good, perhaps with one of the modifications discussed here halfway through.
I think one issue is that it's no fun to defend your patch for too long. Any future even is likely to have twice as many participants, and anything drawn on the Thursday is likely gone by the Monday without a team to defend it.
That's true, but one thing I liked about r/place was the evolution of designs - for example a massive flag would appear early on, be fought over and then the flag would shrink to a more defensible size and the rest of the flag became a different thing. The time lapse was fascinating because of this.
The culture here is more cooperative and less troll-y (trollful? trollesque?) so I'd hope/expect to see more collaborative solutions. I know once I'd helped place the fuck cars logo I threw my pixels into helping build unfinished designs or repair existing ones.
I agree about the "evolution" part of the designs. People really need some sweet time, at least 10 days (starting Friday, finishing at the next Sunday).
Yeah, it will be interesting how the community here evolves over time. Definitely this Canvas event had people working together, respecting other designs, and helping out other projects; but I wonder if it would be the same if we didn't have ample space.
Oh, it definitely wouldn't be the same - five seconds with a history book could tell you that - it's just a question of how quickly we'd go savage 😅
I didn’t see it so sorry if it’s been said, but I would like it if you didn’t have the timer set to 1min when replacing pixels you yourself placed. Thank you, and thank you for doing all of this! It was great!
Permanent one working with a different model. Like 1 pixel per hour with a fixed drop rate (instead of this “stay and place as fast as you can for best performance”), and you can hold like 36 pixels. So basically you drop a few dozen pixels daily then you're done. After every 100,000 clicks, you move the window 100 pixels to the right, making the leftmost 100 pixels locked forever creating a slowly growing endless immutable banner.
Better mobile support for templates, like buttons to toggle visibility
Depending on whats possible, we could do something similar to R/place and every so often expand the canvas start off with something small eg.512x512 and add another 512 px. along side
If I remember right, r/place “scaled up” by adding more blank canvas. But it might be more interesting to actually scale up the previous pixels as well, so each iteration is overlaying the previous one with higher detail.
The end result wouldn’t look as empty, because it would be easier to fill large areas early on.
Interesting idea. That would perhaps wreck a lot of pixel art, but I guess it'd be fine scaled up to 2x2 pixels as you often see it like that anyway.
If that happens, it should be a surprise - would really throw a spanner in the works and make it a unique event. The more I think about this idea, the more I like it!
In the future, please do not ignore clear cases of abuse. The logs you published fully support the report reasons given by me in the case of one individual using 6 accounts, all newly made and going straight to grief as their first actions and throughout.
the pxls backend was spammed by reports done by the software itself (such as "account logged in with ip shared with 2,000 other users" due to a bug related to reverse proxy settings)
a lot of them we just couldn't get to because the aforementioned bug created 60+ pages of reports with no bulk delete or filter options
next year's system will be a lot better setup to avoid these types of issues happening tho!
Fair enough, but you were also personally aware of my post pointing out the issue, while @Gurkinator@toast.ooo sent me a message saying they'd check the logs in connection to this again, to which I replied by sending the account names in a PM.
I'll PM you excerpts from the log that are quite conclusive about it being extremely likely to be the same person based on their activity. Hopefully it will help you be more prepared for something like this in the future.
My son came up with a great idea where we could add a short pop-up note to a pixel or coordinate, perhaps with a viewing expiry time or until the pixel is changed, which would allow for direct communication with other people on the canvas. You could activate the note with a right click of the mouse, for example.
I think doing it more often than reddit would be cool, not super frequent, maybe twice a year. For now the gui is amazing, and i loved this iteration of canvas!
Make the event 1-2 days longer (total 4-5 days). 3 days was too short
The chat wasn't working for me. There is a hotkey ('B') for that but nothing appeared for me and I don't know if something was wonky on my end. Would be nice to be able to easily communicate with other peeps during the event.
Like xuv said, it was a matter of moderation and how Matrix is much better setup for moderation. I failed to remove the mentions to the chat though, which did confuse people, sorry about that.
for next years I would like to better connect the on-site chat with Matrix to make chatting a lot easier (and bridging a Discord server to the Matrix space)
There were a couple questions about that here where the admin said they disabled it because they expected people to chat on Matrix instead. I imagine that's easier to moderate etc but it would've definitely been more user friendly to have the built in one.
Also, after its done we can do something like r/place atlas too.
The data is publicly available for everyone in the thank you post
I am honestly worn out from running & maintaining the event to write it myself, but I welcome anyone to develop this tool for everyone :)
If someone decides to make this, just post it here or message me on matrix and I'll pin it on this community!
besides the canvass, we could try something different. I really like that we don't know what would be next year.
I would love to host other events besides Canvas!
If anyone has ideas for events they would like to see done, message me on Matrix or shoot me an email
Have some of the rules (like cooldown time and overdrawing penalty) vary spatially across the canvas. So there could be a “fast/dynamic” corner where it’s easy to interact and compete, and a “slow/static” corner where things stay put more (with intermediate values in between).
This could also be good feedback for future runs, because people could experience a variety of settings on the same canvas and see which they prefer.
Being able to schedule your next 5 or 10 pixels so that they place automatically. 1 minute is so short I had to dedicate my entire time to the canvas for 2 days straight
Yeah I had canvas running on my watch so I could do other things like working out and texting while I played. Unfortunately the experience on a watch was awful because zooming on a 1.5 inch circular screen was really hard. Sometimes the canvas would desync and so I'd have to reload the screen and rezoom all over again.
Maybe have a short cooldown replacing others' pixels when you have stacked them? Or removing the 30 second longer cooldown for replacing your own?
Edit: Two more suggestions: Ability to place Virgin pixels for your own work if you made a mistake and the undo button has faded/you have already placed another pixel and an Undo key (like "O" or something) to undo after the bar fades.
Different background colour so the final result doesn't look as empty
Bonus pixels for N pixel streak
what about a canvas that is online for way longer, like a couple of weeks, BUT it is read only except during peak user times, and/or the weekend.
give more time for attention and hype to build up, while still restricting the time people have to place pixels. it would also give people who want to place as many pixels as possible and make bigger projects have time to go outside and touch grass, as well as use the 6/6 pixel stacking.