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DENVER — An engine cover on a Boeing 737 operated by Southwest Airlines ripped open just after taking off from Denver International Airport Sunday morning.

The Houston-bound Southwest flight took off from DIA around 7:45 a.m., and returned to the airport 30 minutes later, landing safely. No injuries were reported.

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[-] snooggums@midwest.social 131 points 7 months ago

It's almost like overworking people in the name of profits gets in the way of safety snd reliability.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago

What are you, some kind of socialist?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

Hey Karl Marx, preventing needless death isn’t profitable! Enough.

Thank god the wealthy control the courts and government, at least. They’ll keep the lid on this rabble-rousing.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago

Keep in mind they literally do not care until it gets in the way of profit

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

They tied bonuses directly to how many planes were delivered. Definitely a good way to promote cutting corners.

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[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago

Looks at post title and wonders if Boeing

Opens article

Is Boeing

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

You do know that this has nothing to do with it being a Boeing aircraft, right? The flight was a 737-800 which is from the NG series of 737s. The NG series has one of the lowest accidents per departure of any aircraft ever made and they probably have the most departure of any aircraft series.

This was 100% on Southwest. This aircraft was built in 2015 and has been flying for a decade. All that happened was a Southwest mechanic didn't latch the engine cowling properly after an at gate service. This is a problem and should not happen, but has nothing to do with Boeing.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

It's the Ohio train derailment all over again. Accident happens, people pay more attention to similar accidents, they are shared more on social media (especially if they confirm what people now this is true), people not smart enough to understand that hearing about it more does not mean it's happening more, and so every accident confirms their belief no matter what.

It's a vicious feedback loop.

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago

Even if you discount the airlines responsibility in this, Boeing don't make the engines., CFM International do.

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

I mean half are boeing and half are airbus. We aren't exactly swimming in large airplane manufacturers.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

It’s a Boeing that has been flying for years. Maintenance staff forgot to latch the engine cowling. That is all.

Airbus used to have a way larger problem with this, so bad they had to redesign it to make it more obvious it wasn’t latched.

https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/preventing-fan-cowl-door-loss/

[-] SillyPuppy@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Southwest Airlines uses Boeing aircraft exclusively. Lucky me gets to try my luck in two weeks. 🙄

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thousands of Boeing flights happen every day. Statistically, you'll be fine.

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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 61 points 7 months ago

It has been said a lot these last few months, but it is worth repeating untill Boeing stops dicking around...

"It is Boeing, I ain't going"

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 39 points 7 months ago

It's also important to try to avoid jumping to conclusions without the facts. If this is a new 737 and there's a manufacturing issue, then rake Boeing over the coals. They do have problems. But if this is an older plane that had either maintenance issues, then go after Southwest first unless it's a Boeing responsibility. And of course, things do happen beyond anyone's control too, and engines that fail for any reason but don't take out the rest of the aircraft is a bit of a win for design.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 months ago

It's not new. Is also not a Max. Airframe is from 2015.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/386398

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 7 months ago

Eh, I am still not going if it is Boeing.

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

Neat. Now compare vs Airbus and see all those different compartments become meaningless.

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[-] mercano@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

The story doesn’t mention the age or variant of the plane, but there’s a good chance this is an issue with Southwest maintenance, not Boeing (or their subcontractors) construction.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 38 points 7 months ago

Some quick googling got me the details.

  1. The article mentions the flight number.
  2. Since I didn't know the airline code of Southweast, I googled Southwest and the flight number.
  3. Google flights showed me the full flight number.
  4. Putting that into Flightradar got me a list of the last flights of this flight, one showing a deviation.
  5. Going in there gave me the registration number of the plane that flew that flight and data about the type of plane.
  6. Searching FAA registry gave me all details of the plane.

It is a Boeing 737-8H4, delivered in 2015, so an alomst decade old plane, meaning it was probably an issue with maintenance this time.

Doesn't mean I would fly a Boeing plane untill the stop dicking around.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

How would they stop dicking around with a plane sold to Southwest 9 years ago?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

They wouldn’t but then people ragging on Boeing are also correct. So.

Shall we all wait for the next disaster? Keep scrolling to find out!

Hey what was that union that Reagan destroyed to avoid paying them? I forget.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

Boeing killed John Barnett!

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[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

What other options are there for domestic US flights?

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago

https://simpleflying.com/ten-busiest-domestic-us-airbus-a321neo-routes/

Plenty.

Then you guys also have sleeper trains in some regions, not at the same level as here in Europe, but they exist and are a decent alternative to flying on the routes.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

They're not decent alternatives. They're much slower, more expensive, and go far fewer places. I would love to take a train instead of flying.

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[-] TheFlopster@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago

The article doesn't say "bomb jolt" it says "bump, jolt." In case no one actually reads the article.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thank you, luckily Lemmy let's you edit titles @jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago
[-] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago
[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Lemmy lets you edit comments, too!

(I hate autocorrect sometimes...I don't know why mine keeps changing lets to let's and other similar things...)

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[-] theblackbox@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I read this as "lets* you idiot" and thought gee, the grammar police is getting increasingly hostile

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[-] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Oh hey look it’s a Boeing plane again.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

goddamn planes are falling apart no matter who the fuck makes or services 'em. I am slowly but surely losing trust in air travel at the moment.

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

I mean, all recent coverage seems to have been about Boeing planes..

..but stuff like this is likely more due to shoddy maintenance than production faults, right?

It’s just that everyone is hyper-vigilant currently for anything that goes wrong on a Boeing flight currently.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

but stuff like this is likely more due to shoddy maintenance than production faults, right?

yes exactly. you nailed it of course, it's the same thing like when you buy a car and then you see it everywhere. Human brain likes to connect patterns when possible so anything Boeing is like, 'there they go again!' when in reality it's poor maintenance. Part of why Alaska Airlines has looked real bad with all this stuff, bad maintenance like you said.

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[-] TripleTed@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Noob question: In this age of connected things, why can't the plane have a sensor to detect if the engine cover is closed, and show an error if it is not before flying?

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago

They absolutely have sensors that say “hey, the engine cover is reporting open” but it comes down to where they are when they get that report. I highly doubt the cover was open when they took off, and there’s not going to be a “the engine cover is going to open soon” sensor for this kind of situation.

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