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[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 144 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It needs to be law that all public officials release their tax records...Also no stock holdings.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 85 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think it's ok for them to have stocks, they just should be put into a blind trust to manage, and they shouldn't be able to make any transactions outside of that for the duration of their term in office.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And the potential conflicts of interest should be described so their decisions can be analyzed against them if necessary.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 18 points 7 months ago

Nah, I think they’ve shown they cannot be responsible with such a privilege and it should be taken from them.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 67 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Or, ya know, you could just make everyones publicly available by request along with earnings. Like they do in Finland.

Strangely, this seems to lower the amount of corruption in government and non-government organisations.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

America is weirdly fucking puritanical about disclosing income. One of the many anti-union cultural legacies.

[–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 25 points 7 months ago

It would be one of the most impactful pro worker thing the government could do right now. So it won't happen:(

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Hmm, should there be limits? I agree in principle that receiving public money as income should probably make your income records public knowledge, but... do we need to expose the personal finances of every park ranger? every military member? NASA engineers? Education board members? Or limit it specifically to elected positions? Would it then only apply to elected judges but not appointed ones? Every level - fed, state, county, city?

The problem is, your tax records have enough information on them to expose you to identity theft. High-profile positions like the President will have enough people watching all their records to prevent any serious identity theft attempts, but setting up that kind of oversight for every public official would be incredibly difficult and expensive. Exposing some government positions to identity theft like this creates some pretty serious security concerns. Just exposing the address of a judge could put them at risk.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Do you really think the president of the United States could be a victim of identity theft?

Edit: oh, I misread. No, you don't apparently. Answered my own question

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 7 months ago

Right, it's everyone else that would be at risk.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes we should release financials. They're public servants, not our lords. We can keep addresses etc secure when necessary.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We can keep addresses etc secure when necessary.

My point is that it would always be necessary. Are you familiar with the OPM data breach?

Yes we should release financials. They're public servants, not our lords

Did you even read my comment? I'm not talking about "lords", I'm talking about people who are just government employees.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My local paper loved printing out names and salaries of the district's teachers every year.

[–] Hule@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

EU here. All public servants report their wealth every year.

So they have to find other ways to hide it, mostly at relatives..

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Government employees way too often forget they are public servants. The public has a right to know their salaries, to record them while they are working, and to expect respect and transparency.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you have two problems. Lack of financial transparency for public servants, and poor systems in place to mitigate identity theft.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 7 months ago

poor systems in place to mitigate identity theft.

Everyone in the world has this problem.

[–] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As it turns out, his financials actually ARE under audit... just instead of the IRS, it's by various parts of the justice system

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago

And even so... he's still not prevented from releasing them.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was not prepared to learn the White House Phrase for Kamala's husband is Second Gentleman.

I like it. It's cute.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Second Gentleman Doug.

[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

No change there.