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What the title says. I think there is still a long way for that to happen but i've been hopeful. What do you think?

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Yes

It's unpredictable though. Too many influences on that. People, interaction, systematic. Reddit has the size it could remain, or rebound. Lemmy as a project or platform could fuck up.

Lemmy/Fediverse is a sizeable niche now and has a chance to - over time - scale up significantly.

[–] wolfcatreader@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

As others have pointed out, I am content with Lemmy being a niche app with engaged users.

I don't think it'll become mainstream and doesn't have to be. Also, I believe folx are becoming more mindful of their digital privacy. The latter will continue to grow. And that is the new trend.

Technocrats are becoming less irrelevant as well because tech advancements expose their data mining trends and their sole purpose with their "products" is profit no matter the cost (often at our detriments).

[–] normalmighty@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Imo reddit and twitter had both become too big and bloated, leading to a lit of the toxicity/recycled content. I think there's plenty of room for more platforms to arise and become successful, while the old ones stay "mainstream"

Basically reddit and Twitter will become the new Facebook over the next 5-10 years.

I can only hope so. People understand that email is decentralized and that an @gmail can talk to @aol. They also understand that someone using an iPhone with Verizon can text someone using an Android phone in AT&T. But, they need incentive to leave. I was perfectly aware of reddit, but didn't join until digg updated to V4. Ive know about fediverse, but didn't bother joining until recently. Most people won't leave platforms they are used to.

[–] Tebza255@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, there a lots of tiny bits of things that just make it a difficult experience compared to reddit.

[–] liontigerwings@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

true, but reddit was not user friendly at first either. It's one of the reasons why 3rd party apps got so big. In it's current state, it will not compete with reddit. But expect it to improve overtime. Also, some apps are already solving this problem. The biggest issue is onboarding is very confusing. There needs to be a UI that just automatically suggest an instance and give you an option to change it if you're an advanced user?

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It doesn't need to replace anything, that's a sports mentality applied to the free flow of information. What this decade has taught us is that the doomscroll is all there is. Reddit, Tiktok, Twitter, etc. all have constant scrolling through content as their main feature. It's a feature that's extremely reproducible. What the fediverse does is take power away from the corporations that want to make money off of the flow of user-created content. By the fediverse's existence, whenever some company wants to rate-limit or ban 3rd party apps, the people can now just say: "Nah."

[–] ThatOtherDude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yes. I am a typical reddit user and Lemmy is simply a better product.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Lemmy: yes

Mastodon: ONLY IF IT CHANGES ITS SHITTY, CLUMSY, UGLY, UNINTUITIVE NAME to something with more of the following features:

  1. Two syllables with the accent on the first (trochee)
  2. Bright, sharp consonant and sibilant phonemes that pop (instead of dull, wooden, sonorous ones that flop)
  3. Has a v or r sound in it to make it sound powerful
  4. Bouncy and fun to say, therefore memorable

For example, it might catch on with a name like "Trunky" - I'm sure people who are more creative than me might come up with even better names.

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[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes I do. What I am looking for is federated/web3 replacements for Instagram, and some kind of well encrypted, decentralized messenger app

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Signal is well encrypted and very much respects privacy of data, but I don't think it's federated. It can interface with normal texts though iirc

[–] Oka@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the idea of a federation: websites being able to talk to each other, could be mainstream. I don't think lemmy will be mainstream, but I do think lemmy will be able to talk to mainstream websites on the federation.

What if you could use your lemmy account to buy stuff online, book a flight, pay bills, sign up for streaming services, etc.? The federation isn't seeing its full potential.

[–] Aesorian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think this is the answer.

Lemmy and (maybe) Mastodon (I don't know enough about it) will be the inspiration for something that goes mainstream - but I do think that they'll be the Myspace to the next big things Facebook - Perfect for people who know how to take advantage of it and it will be a mild success because of it; but someone will come along, streamline and spruce it up and that will be the new standard

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Only if a site like join-Lemmy.org can be promoted on every instance and actually direct you to a server that isn’t overloaded and is fully federated.

Right now, it directs you to sadly overloaded servers that are terrible choices.

If that doesn’t happen, then some big instance needs to scale up with its popularity and be well funded by someone for some reason.

[–] art@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Mainstream yes. Fully replace? Never. However I don't think that traditional counterparts will ever be as big as they were before. I think we're seeing a shift in people's relationship with these platforms.

[–] markpaskal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I think Lemmy is coming along nicely. There is lots of content for me to consume. I am on lemmy.ca so I haven't seen any of the bugs other people are talking about, it just works except for subscribing to places on the busy instances which shows pending for a while.

People will get used to how this works and I think it snowballs from here.

[–] stackPeek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean... Reddit itself is already very niche

Lemmy probably won't every be mainstream. Mastodon, probably, not confident about it.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I'm already there, and acknowledge my sample size is low. :)

[–] bledley@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

mainstream's not all it's cracked up to be..

[–] Mastersord@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I’m hopeful but it will take a while. I want to see where we are in 6 months from now. Apps need to be pushed to the stores (at least on iOS).

That being said, it needs protocols for migrating instances when an instance is dead or about to die. Then there are some privacy concerns and such. It’s also not clear how it all can sustain monetarily except via donations.

But seeing the recent growth spurts and increase in new posts, I am still hopeful that this place has staying power.

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