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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[–] MxRemy@lemmy.one 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

No.

Maybe I'm way off the mark here but... I think the reaction to tankies seems very overblown. No one you could describe as a "tankie" is currently in charge of any of the countries/companies/organizations that are busy destroying the world right now, so I don't super understand why everyone's talking about them like they're at all a priority? The authoritarians that tankies are obsessed with are all either long dead, or totally unaware of their existence.

Maybe some people on the left are just trying to look at future dangers here, like tankies are gonna be "Bolsheviks Part 2", somehow come into power, and then purge all the anarchists or something. But didn't Bolsheviks actually have a lot of power and influence prior to the revolution? Tankies don't seem to.

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes.

I don't care to hide my aims; I don't move sheisty like some of y'all favorite Democrats do. Til all are fed and all have beds; my skin is Black, my star is Red.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Filibuster_Rhymes@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (8 children)

NO

When the current government is not doing a very good job at maximizing the happiness of its citizens, it's a natural reaction to look for answers from a different type of government. America has some enormous problems with capitalism as it currently operates, and communism offers solutions to many of those problems. The issue is the top-down power structure. Democracy keeps the most power in the hands of the general population, and i will always oppose giving that up. Beyond that, I'm open to any solutions for modern problems, public or private.

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[–] PedroG14@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago
[–] roux@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

I'm as tankie as they come.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I am… or maybe we’re all tankies now. What’s the difference?

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[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago (11 children)

NO

Tankie has been shifting way beyond its original meaning to just be a vague leftward stab, but being an anarchist and everything I don't think it applies to me just yet

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[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No.

This isn't my standard instance but I do take a look at it sometimes. I'm definitely very far left leaning, I don't have a label that clearly fits me but I'm probably close enough to anarcho-communism or syndicalism. I live in the UK so it's pretty common for my views to fall further left of the USA.

I'm not particularly good at actually adhering to my own views, infact I don't think I've ever done e anything substantial to bringing my ideals into reality. My dream would be for small federated housing / workers co-ops and unions to get a good handle in my area, and then have the stability to grow.

The crucial reason I'm not a tankie is that I actively oppose top down leadership structures, and I'm actually more against authoritarianism than I am against the right, but I feel that in my country, conservatism and authoritarianism are deeply linked, and a bottom up power structure would do more to actively oppose facism and power consolidation than a far left authoritarian regime.

In short, No. My principles may make me a commie, but I'm an anarchist first.

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I don't consider myself a tankie, because I'm an anarcho-syndicalist.

I've been called a tankie for suggesting that workers should organize tenant unions to kill the apartment bidding wars in NYC. I've been called a tankie for pointing out that their image of a tankie needs to almost have power to be any kind of threat worth warning against, and there are no tankies anywhere near power with the global rise of fascism. I've been called a tankie for asking someone to clarify what they meant by tankie. I've been told that scientific socialism both is and is not tankie behavior. The term is utterly meaningless. I've come to the conclusion that it's part of a 3rd red scare in an effort to sow division amongst the anticapitalist left.

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

i may or may not have a tanksona, but that doesn't make me a tankie.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Yes. I get called one everytime i defend or advocate for anything left of Bernie Sanders. "

"Communism is the riddle of history solved, and knows itself to be the solution."

Is as true today as it was when Marx wrote it almost 200 years ago.

[–] megane_kun@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

NO

Neither do I self-identify as a tankie, I don't think anyone who'd identify themselves as tankies would think of me as one.

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

NO

I've never even been called one erroneously.

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[–] Floey@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

YES

At least if we go off the Lemmy definition. I don't self identify.

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