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[-] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Fuck those for-profit insurance goons straight to fucking hell

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

A lot of insurers (the “blues”) are non-profit. Doesn’t make our healthcare system more efficient

[-] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you for the clarification. I will express my rage more adequately in the future.

Edit: It turns out that Blue Cross / Blue Shield is actually a not-for-profit instead of a non-profit.

Nonprofits are formed explicitly to benefit the public good; not-for-profits exist to fulfill an owner’s organizational objectives.

https://www.uschamber.com/co/start/strategy/nonprofit-vs-not-for-profit-vs-for-profit

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Many blues are nonprofits. The blues are a network of insurers. It is not one company

Edit: randomly googled it and clicked on a few, here’s a couple examples of nonprofits:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_and_Blue_Shield_of_Alabama

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_Blue_Shield_of_Massachusetts

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Cancer costs shouldn’t be a thing. Especially for people with insurance. What a con. Just give us socialized medicine already.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

I have read that those who are uninsured raise the costs of services for others. I should probably look into this, but I have wondered if those on social services also increase the costs. I mean, clearly taxes support the systems. But I wondered if institutions make less on those with socialized plans over those with private insurance. So in the end individuals with private insurance get reamed by the government, the institution itself (because they can charge more), and the insurance companies which can raise costs as they see fit. Not sure though.

Cancer is scary though, and people shouldn't have to go into lifelong debt for just wanting to live. I have known several individuals over my lifetime who have chosen to bow out over the alternative. I have also known some people who have been in financial ruin since their treatment. They are still here, but are financially ruined so their life quality drops. Which leads to worse health in the long run. So it's a frustrating thing to think about as a whole.

I suppose the article touches on that last part. I think something else to state is it would be so wonderful if America created environments which were more conducive to better health. It's stressful to be an American, but I think it's because we're (for the most parts) pawns in this big game. Of course we do have some things far better than a majority of the individuals of the world. But I don't believe most Americans eat real food. Most "breaks" in people's days are just spent driving from point a to point b. So much of our lives are filled with chatter, and so many of our living spaces are filled with plastic tacky junk. If we could reduce a lot of this bull, I think we'd have less cancer overall. But then again, urbanization isn't the end all be all answer (smaller living spaces, shared living spaces, walking, less time spent commuting - etc.). Because they build cities with cars trouncing all throughout them increasing the pollution and temperature. So hell if I know what the real answer is, but I do know that there are for sure facets of the American lifestyle which have increased cancer rates.

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