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That stuff had been on my mind for way too long.

I was considering getting a USB-C - jack dongle, but they seemed annoying to carry around, and I wanted to avoid potential damage to the USB-C port by plugging it in and out multiple times per day (USB-C still seems finicky to me for some reason)

Also, I always like to have a backup device so that I'm not locked out of everything in case something happens to my primary phone.

The device is nice so far, really impressive for the price (got it for 180€ second hand with 1 year guarantee at a second hand shop).

I see it more as a connected music/video player than anything else, and for that it serves it purpose perfectly.

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[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fellow g84 user here. I love that Motorola's new thing is "here's some hardware. It runs stock android because you don't care and neither do we. We haven't put a fucking golf mode in the camera or reinvented the browser, file manager, app store, or any of that other stuff Samsung did, and therefore we don't charge you Β£1000 for the privilege."

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those are some positive changes.

Is the battery easily replaceable? Have they stopped making it a pain in the ass to unlock the bootloader? Those are the things that matter for longevity of a device.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

sadly no removable battery but unlocking the bootloader seems simple enough: https://unlocktechy.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-on-motorola-moto-g84

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Hm, it still looks a bit annoying that you have to go to their website and get Motorola's blessing via a special unlock key, rather than doing it 100% on your own. But that looks more automated than in the past so maybe that's an improvement. Thanks.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can unlock the bootloader, but they don't provide the stock ROM for root, and not TWRP or custom ROM support for all but a select few of their phones.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you can unlock it, you can probably root it by patching the boot image

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Do you have said boot image or a way to extract it without root?

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

AUX, MicroSD, smaller format and big battery was the reason I went for my Sony Xperia 10 IV (budget phone, got mine new for 260€) device.
Sadly their software updates are only for two years as otherwise I would've been interested in the Sony Xperia 5 series (compact flagship). I'm not paying flagship prices for a phone that stops updating after two years.

I hope that the EU regulation forcing 5 years of updates for phones and tablets starting June 2025 will allow me a compact flagship phone with aux, big battery and updates for a long time.
https://repair.eu/sv/news/new-eu-rules-smartphones-and-tablets-will-follow-new-ecodesign-requirements-by-june-2025/

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I hope that the EU regulation forcing 5 years of updates for phones and tablets starting June 2025 will allow me a compact flagship phone with aux, big battery and updates for a long time.

I just wish there was a PC compatible like standard for smartphones (and ARM in general). If smartphones were like PCs where a third party can relatively easily maintain 10+ years support, worrying about whether a manufacturer cares to update becomes irrelevant.

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Historically I've gone for Lenovo laptops, at least for their business segments they've been good with releasing updates to fix security issues for many years. Having a promise of 5 years of firmware updates would be lovely though.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Sony Xperia 10 IV (budget phone, got mine new for 260€) device.

Xperia were really on my list, but not very popular in the second hand market where I live. Hopefully one day I'll get one, they seem to be nice devices.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Fellow g84 user here. Almost a perfect phone.

Dual sim. Call recording. Stereo speakers. Loud enough. Oled screen. (slight tint.) Headphone jack 5Ah battery Super light phone. 5G. 12 gigs ram. FM radio with some reception sans cable. Soft rear cover.

Biggest downside is the camera as there's no optical zoom / telephoto lens. Also if you take a photo in low light and leave the camera app straight after taking it, it's gone.

For $AU299 it's hard to beat.

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 5 points 3 months ago

I'm a capt' three phones at the moment

While I've had my backup Samsung M12 with a 1pmobile SIM in my work locker for a couple of years now simply as an emergency backup, I'm also currently rocking two Xiaomi's so I can test remote connections to a family members server via work WiFi/Tailscale.

My main issue is while I wear cargo pants at work, carrying two phones is more wieldy than you'd think and there's also something else I did notice the other day with the Find My Device news.

I forgot where, I left my main phone the other day and my locker is a literal Faraday cage according to FMD? 10 minutes of panic :/

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

I own a Motorola g82 and it's still a decent phone.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I won't work in the US which is sad

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

I think there is the Stylus model there which is similar and also has a jack

[–] leds@feddit.dk 1 points 3 months ago

I have this thing:

But it went through laundry in my pocket and stopped working

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago

I was considering getting a USB-C - jack dongle, but they seemed annoying to carry around, and I wanted to avoid potential damage to the USB-C port by plugging it in and out multiple times per day (USB-C still seems finicky to me for some reason)

Fair enough if you're concerned about the USB port's durability, but for casual users like myself that is actually a viable solution. I bought one a few months back and have been surprised at how much less annoying they are to use than I thought they would be. I no longer consider the loss of 3.5 mm a major problem these days. It's an annoyance I still consider unnecessary, but only a minor one.