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[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Suppressing the local language. Happened in Australia, the Americas, and so many other places. It's a symptom of the overall racism.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

Can´t control the population if they have their own language.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How insecure do you have to be that you find it necessary to suppress a language?

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Ask any european colonial power. Language is very powerful in uniting and dividing people. Using language to repress a cultural identity is not unheard of and not necessarily the sign of insecurity. It is a tried and tested method (russia is doing it in Ukraine as well).

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

If you're only going to read the headline, go back to reddit.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You owe it to yourself to read the article and realise that there is literally nothing in the claim. The headline is bollocks.

[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Chaak-ming Lau, an assistant professor of linguistics at the Education University of Hong Kong, believes that despite increased use of Mandarin in Hong Kong society, the city is not at risk of losing Cantonese. In Hong Kong’s 2021 census, over 6.3 million people aged 5 and up still have Cantonese as their usual spoken language. The Hong Kong government’s official stance is promoting biliteracy in English and written Chinese, and trilingualism in English, Putonghua, and Cantonese. And in the Ethnologue, the world’s most comprehensive catalog of languages, Cantonese—as part of the Yue Chinese family—has “institutional vitality,” which means communities and institutions use it extensively. “Cantonese is very far from being endangered,” Lau tells TIME.

6.3 million out of 7 million people still use it as their main language. I can see how calling for the "preservation of Cantonese" could be viewed as a separatist dogwhistle. The essay that caught the attention of the government was one that described the future of Hong Kong as one where Cantonese and local culture is all but wiped out by the mainland government in 20 years. One character in the story calls the protagonist who grew up in England "more qualified to be a Hong Konger than any of us" because they were saved from the see see pee mind virus. It's very funny.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's worth noting as well that there are shit loads of languages spoken across China and that Mandarin is essentially the Esperanto of China, allowing communication across the country.

This really is just sensationalist rubbish.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

France used to be that way.

Now they all speak French.

This isnt rubbish, this is Chinese imperialism.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have possibly read a different article...

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

No, just read it again and it really does not look like China is trying to erase cantonese.

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Ask Ukraine

[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

That's one point out of dozens in the article with links to China doing the same shit to other people.

But because a single link leads to a CIA adjacent news source, then the entire article must be thrown out...

Tankies, so obsessed with seeing the US as the bad guy that they actively ignore when China or Russia also fuck up the world and abuse their citizens.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A Cantonese language advocacy group in Hong Kong stopped operations after local officials raided the family house of its chairman last week over an essay published three years ago.

It’s the latest sign of waning freedoms in Hong Kong, since a sweeping national security law was passed in 2020 that has since been used to curtail civil liberties in the city and stamp out anything perceived as a critique of or threat to Beijing’s expanding influence in the former British colony-turned-Chinese enclave.

Andrew Lok Han Chan, the chair and founder of Societas Linguistica Hongkongensis (SLHK)—which formed in 2013 and has advocated for the preservation of Cantonese or Guangdonghua, a language with origins in the southern Chinese province of Guangdong (formerly called Canton) and also widely used in Hong Kong and Macau—announced on Facebook on Monday that he was disbanding the group “effective immediately,” to “ensure the safety of my family and former members.”

Under Xi Jinping’s rule, as China has increasingly repressed Hong Kong’s freedoms and identity, Tsang says, Hongkongers have viewed identifying with Cantonese as a means to push back.

The SLHK’s shutdown falls in line with Xi’s other measures to increase the city’s swift integration with China, Tsang adds: “Dissent that can be seen as posing any kind of challenge to the CCP’s authority is no longer permitted in Hong Kong."

In 2016, the dystopian film “Ten Years”—which depicted a Hong Kong that has Mandarin as the dominant language—was reportedly banned from Chinese public screenings at Beijing’s behest.


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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

the essay that police asked to be taken down was “Our Time” by Siu Gaa, which imagines Hong Kong in 2050 after a government crackdown on linguistic and ethnic minorities as well as freedom of religion in the city

It's not about Cantonese. It's they hate this essay for some reason. Whether that's better or worse is up to your judgement.

[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I have a hunch this language suppression meme is fake news. I'll get back to you guys in a decade or two to see if I was right.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LOL, imagine writing that subheading unironically.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ROFLMAO, imagine being a tankie and defending China unironically.

[–] KijinSeija@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They’re doing the same thing they did back in the 90s with Shanghainese, this time on a much larger scale. Disgusting.