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Canadian Labour Minister Steven MacKinnon has rejected a request by Canadian National Railway to initiate binding arbitration in a labor dispute with the Teamsters union, a spokesman for the minister said on Thursday.

In a letter to CN Rail's lawyers, MacKinnon said it was the shared responsibility of the company and the union to negotiate in good faith. The letter, sent on Wednesday, was released by the Teamsters.

Talks between CN Railway and Canadian Pacific Kansas City - the country's two largest rail companies - and the Teamsters are deadlocked, with each side blaming the other.

CN Rail said it was disappointed by MacKinnon's decision, saying he would have to reconsider if the union did not "get serious and engage meaningfully at the negotiating table".

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago

Nice to see our government making a good decision

[–] jakob22@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The β€œnegotiating table” is CN giving what workers are asking for, that’s what unions are for. Binding arbitration is a slap in the face to Canadian workers

[–] a9249@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is management isnt willing to negotiate. Everything here is done in bad faith and they plan to use politics to force their way. All workers want is a cost of living wage; while CNR wants to cut EVERYTHING significantly. All from a company posting record profits.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Time to nationalize it, you say?

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

CN was privatized in 1995 by the Chretien and Martin gov'ts (but was started by the Mulroney gov't in the mid 80's).

Fuck CN with that binding arbitration

Power to Teamsters!✊

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

CN and CPKC, I love ya, but no one's going to buy the bullshit that stalling and pushing for binding arbitration is what constitutes being serious and engaging meaningfully at the negotiating table.

[–] a9249@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Because the contract they are trying to shove through is nothing but bad for existing employees; and even worse for new ones. Huge cuts to benefits and pay, huge demands on extra working hours, shifts, and rotations; along with forcing any employee to move anywhere at any time with zero notice. All from a company posting record profits.

The workers just want a 7% raise to keep up with inflation. Average salary is 45k unless super senior.

Binding arbitration means at-least some of these horrendous measures would be forced.

Strike is the only option and from what I've been hearing, management is just going to try to use the strike against them.

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://www.cn.ca/en/investors/financial-results/

Income of 5.3 Billion in 2023.

I think they can afford several times what the union is asking for.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

"Fuck the peasants, my numbers need to go up!" I wish we didn't have politicians so eager to sell off our national enterprises to corporate scum.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They gon strike and the Canadian economy is gonna suffer.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Good. The economy needs to pay the most it can bear for labour. We pay the most we can bear for goods and services.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every cent of that will be passed on the to the consumer. So your goods and services will get more expensive.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you want the unions (as both CN and CP are under strike mandates) to be forced back to work instead? That only helps the railways, not the employees.

Besides, I bet you don't even know what they're fighting for or that it's the railways who are gonna lock out the workers, do you?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So the user I'm replying to said they pay the most they can bear for goods and services. But any additional costs are going to be passed along, inevitably, so those goods and services are going to cost more.

What part of that depicts my opinion of what railway workers should or shouldn't make?

You decide what my opinion is and then attack. How does that work out for you IRL?

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So the user I'm replying to said they pay the most they can bear for goods and services.

No they didn't. They said we should be paying the most we can for labour. Not one thing was said about goods.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

We pay the most we can bear for goods and services.

Apparently you stopped at the first period.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Pfft. Whatever.