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Final (?) Debate thread before the election in 35 days.

Debate begins at 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific and runs 90 minutes.

Vice Presidential debates are always tricky since nobody has voted for Vice President in living memory.

Expect Vance to attack Walz on his military service.

Expect Walz to attack Vance on the whole "immigrants eating cats and dogs" thing.

Expect Vance to attack Walz on being an assistant coach, at best.

Expect Walz to roll out "Weird!" at least once.

CBS has announced the burden of fact checking will be on the candidates themselves.

https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10

How to watch here:

https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10

"How can you watch the VP debate on cable? 

CBS will air debate coverage starting at 8 p.m. ET on CBS broadcast stations and affiliates. Find your local station here.

How can you stream the VP debate without cable? 

The debate can be streamed on the free CBS News app on your connected TV or smartphone, on Paramount+, and all platforms where CBS News 24/7 is available, including CBSNews.com and YouTube. 

Debate coverage on CBS News 24/7 begins at 4 p.m. ET."

Edit Impressive how a debate can go when one participant doesn't have mental health issues! Thanks for coming everybody!

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It’s great that vance keeps heaping responsibility on Harris for events that happened while she was VP, events which were nothing a VP could affect.

Also, the world was “stable” under trump because tens of millions of people were dying from covid and the world was locked down. If trump wants to take responsibility for the covid virus, go for it.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Ha, Walz didn’t just accuse trump of being an agent of chaos – he used YOUR words to point that out, idiot.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The way this evening is going for Vance:

MODERATOR: [DIRECT QUESTION]

VANCE: "I'm going to talk about something completely different now."

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[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Do we care or not care about the future? Vance what?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

LOL at Walz just out there on his own and ready and Vance like, "WTF? He's already out here?!"

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 2 months ago

so obsessed with impeaching donald trump. yeah well that happens when you use the us presidency for blackmail. Its not obsession when a person is actually being corrupt.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Vance:

I want the entire Minnesota law dealing with abortion spoken verbatim, sir or my lies and misinterpreting said law will be true!

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Walz just comes off as so goddamn nice. I wish I could meet him in person.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

That was a really good answer from Walz, actually.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Great point from Walz on trusting experts.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 2 months ago

oh snap. walz pushing back on anti expert rhetoric from the right.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Walz was way too soft on Vance and let him control most of the debate. I'm tired of Dems positioning themselves as diet Republicans, then acting like they are nothing like while saying how much they agree with a guy like Vance on things lol. Vance also loudly saying you weren't supposed to fact-check me was embarrassing. Walz laid out actual plans and policy but that is not going to reach that crowd they are targeting.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 2 months ago

first of all let me not answer the question and go off on a tangent.

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Minor Vance win overall since he had lower expectations going in and Walz got that one unfortunate extremely clippable misspeak. Vance refusing to admit Trump lost in 2020 and his Springfield...thing though cost him any chance of a rout, which is basically required for a VP debate to have significant upballot effects. Still the Republicans probably appreciate getting Vance above Sarah Parin and Aaron Burr and getting the media distracted for another day or two.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vance is... just not answering the question. His delivery is weirdly robotic.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is marketing word salad, which is all you can expect from someone like Vance.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So far, I like the way the moderators are handling things.

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Trump got the house republicans to turn against their own bipartisan immigration bill so he can run on the issue. Hammer that hard.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Is he capable of answering a single question? This is just tedious.

Trump said blah, pls respond. Lol no, here’s what I imagine Kamala might do in some alternate reality.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

But he said he would have a plan 8 years ago… I think he should have more than a concept. No?

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Walz has the receipts on improving the lives of the middle class.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Vance is slick, but Walz is honest. I hope people can see the difference.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Good lord. Can he answer ONE FUCKING QUESTION? Just one.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Kamala Harris is not the president, and you’re a liar.

Your party has relentlessly fought against the working class, which is why we’re struggling and destitute, even after decades of working for the scraps we have.

You’re a liar Vance.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Walz pointing out that Trump does diplomacy by tweet.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Walz hitting his stride now

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Well, first of all.
Well... First of all.
First of all.
Well. First of all.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’s not going to answer the question….

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yup. Keep going Walz, attack Trump over and over. That's all you need to do.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bingo cards here:

https://www.wired.com/story/bingo-how-to-watch-vp-walz-vance-debate/

If you get the square with "The Cathedral" and are wondering what THAT Is:

It's a term related to extremist blogger Curtis Yarvin, who's in the J.D. Vance/Peter Thiel orbit:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets

More on Yarvin here:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23373795/curtis-yarvin-neoreaction-redpill-moldbug

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I think this is how the evening is going to go. Vance simply won't directly answer any questions.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Walz Pro Tip of the Day!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That is 3 AM or 03:00 Central european time or Paris mean time.
https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter

We bought Beer and snacks, looking forward to Walz walzing all over Vance. 🍺🍺😀

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