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[-] teddy2021@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Well, if it means one more thing foils that one shithead from South Africa, i.e. force him to die never having achieved anything of meaning to humanity nor achieving his ultimate escape, then fuck it, I welcome Kessler syndrome as the last horseman of the current apocalypse.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 20 points 22 hours ago

We have outer space pretty well mapped, tens of thousands of pieces of space junk are tracked daily, I have a hard time believing you could take out a satellite and have nobody know.

Nah, just Boeing being Boeing.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

We have outer space pretty well mapped

An estimate from before this satellite broke up was that 97% of space debris is not tracked and that there are 131 million pieces of untracked debris in space.

Now that said, I think your point is valid because most of this untracked debris is much smaller than a satellite

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Does debris in the geostationary orbit move relatively to each other and the satellites?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 15 hours ago

If it's still in geostationary orbit, no. Generally debris aren't in a perfectly defined orbit like that, though.

If it's debris that used to be in geostationary orbit, they're going to be in an array of slightly different orbits, and so will have an epicycle of some kind as seen from the earth.

Also, note that intelligence satellites tend not to be geostationary, because that would limit their collection area. I don't know about this specific one.

[-] Successful_Try543@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I was talking about Intelsat 33e which ~~is~~ was a communication satellite, not for espionage, on a geostationary orbit. The russian espionage satellites Olymp-K and Kosmos 1408 mentioned in the other replies, however are/were on a geosynchronous orbit and on low earth orbit, respectively, as you suggested.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Oh, okay. It's a funny name then.

Its named after the * International Telecommunications Satellite Consortium*

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Oh yeah, I think I have heard that name before. (It's organization, though)

[-] Successful_Try543@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 minutes ago

Obviously the naming is not consistent among the wikipedia articles in different languages:

Intelsat 33e war ein kommerzieller Kommunikationssatellit des International Telecommunications Satellite Consortium (Intelsat) mit Sitz in Luxemburg.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelsat_33e

communication satellite, not for espionage

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Considering it's Boeing and the same thing happened to the last one a few years ago... I mean, it's not rocket science.

[-] swab148@lemm.ee 10 points 20 hours ago
[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't we know if anyone was launching a rocket into space.

[-] Person264@lemmings.world 16 points 1 day ago

They have one sigint satellite Olymp-K creeping around up there, why not a second that doesn't have a Wikipedia article

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ah, ok. You mean another satellite on suicide mission. The russkis probably have some available. I was thinking of some anti-satellite ~~rocket~~ missile like it has been used for destruction of the satellite Kosmos 1408. However, as it is launched from an airplane, I doubt it produces a splash, like heavy rockets do, that would be visible from space by espionage satellites.

[-] Person264@lemmings.world 9 points 23 hours ago

ASAT missiles are only suitable for low earth orbit, you'd need a rocket about the size of a falcon 9 to reach GEO where Intelsat was sitting. Think people might notice that. Wouldn't need the satellite to be on a suicide mission, could just slap a gun on it like the good old days.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 3 points 21 hours ago

Thanks. I didn't notice the satellites were on different orbits.

[-] Streetlights@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

No ASAT is going out to geosynchronus orbit.

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