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I don't remember what caused the Voat's origin, except it involved Reddit HQ. And then it went under in 2020.

What's different about this time and with Lemmy to make it a feasible alternative to Reddit? Is it random chance?

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[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I quess it'll be Lemmy/Kbin, or at least for me. What is voat? ;) (never heard of it until this post)

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voat was an unconditional "free speech" platform that wanted to be an alternative to reddit a few years ago. I think it took about a week until they had to ban the first communities on their site. The_Donald, QAnon and Gamergate was pretty big over there at first and it gradually turned into a neo Nazi platform. It was easily one of the worst sites around when it died.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It was the new Reddit but free speech so full of racists fascists etc

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[–] calvin@lemmy.todayyoutomorrow.me 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voat was a replica of Reddit in design. One centralized server. We would have ended up in the same crappy place even if that were a success because at some point they would have wanted to monetize it also.

You have to do some reading and learn about the technology behind Lemmy and federation to understand.

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[–] Antik@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

~~Trump~~ Traitor supporting subs have already been called out and others urged to defederize with them (is that the right phrasing? I'm still new to this).

For that reason alone, I feel like Lemmy will-at the very least--last longer than Voat as a viable reddit alternative.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

This is just the start of Reddit's board going for the big money. It's at odds with a volunteer modded site and volunteer created content. Mods aren't going to be happy to do unpaid work just so the CEO can get rich. This API stuff is just the first exposure of this conflict. As more mods wonder why they are doing this for free just so what's his name gets rich, more will abandon Reddit and come to Lemmy.

[–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I still don't know what kbin is.

Honestly though Lemmy needs a rename. The musical artist is significantly more popular and it screws up searches.

[–] Motorhead1066@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't want "feasible alternative to reddit" tbh. Fediverse is its own thing and it's whatever we make it. We have tools to decide what content we see on our end. We have instances that all have slightly different vibes. Lemmy is just a multiverse, populated by people. So far most people here are cool.

If there becomes an instance that is breeding hatred, they get defederated. The end user can then decide to make an acct there if they wanna see that stuff.

That may not resonate with some people I guess. I really like it's simple organic nature and it allows for flexibility.

[–] mookulator@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People seem super jazzed about the decentralized nature of Lemmy and other stuff in the “fediverse”. I don’t really understand how it works but it seems cool that Lemmy isn’t a single company/website. Can’t have a power tripping CEO or a board that panders to shareholders that way.

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[–] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, because Lemmy is not a platform, its a software that can be run on a server, and that server running the code is called an instance. The instance is where the platform is. An instance can communicate with other instances, which is called federation. Instances that are deemed problematic by another instance owner can become "defederated" meaning communication is cut off. One well known instance being defederated is lemmygrad.ml, which is an instance that promotes authoritarian-left political views. Another instance is exploding-heads.com (don't know if I spelt it correctly, I don't care), which has far-right content.

TLDR: Lemmy is not a singular platform, but an interconnected network of servers (instances). Lemmy will not "die" anytime soon, but certain instances can die.

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[–] tymon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Voat was a racist, fascist hell-hole where the most terminally-online and unlikeable people on the internet were corralled together. It was the social equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel.

Lemmy seems to be insulated from Voat's fate because it was a hard left-turn in the face of a platform implosion.

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