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Trump isn't over the line yet, but Starmer seems confident enough that Trump has won.

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[-] li10@feddit.uk 34 points 2 days ago

Trump isn't over the line yet, but Starmer seems confident enough that Trump has won.

We all know it’s over at this point though.

God help the world. This is all just a big game to some people.

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago

It's impressive that Jonathan Ashworth managed to lose two elections on two separate continents in one year.

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Finest political mind of the last century.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Historically stupid for sure.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

Sadly gotta be done we need to much from America to play about

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago
[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

Can't wait for Lammy to shake hands with Trump on his next state visit.

[-] WestBromwich@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

Trump holds grudges so maybe he would insist on only meeting Starmer and not Lammy. Who knows.

[-] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Really awful. Starmer could congratulate Trump without indulging him.

[-] WestBromwich@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Realistically perhaps Britain just needs partners, with the US of course being a major partner (Five Eyes for example).

If we weren't so closely tied to the US then maybe Starmer could be making a statement similar to that of Macron and Scholz today:

Germany, France vow close cooperation after US election... "We will work in this new context for a more united, stronger, more sovereign Europe..."

[-] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Do we, though? Macron’s reaction seems to go too far the other way. Surely a “Congratulations on your reelection, Mr President and we look forward to working with you in the interests of both our countries” would be sufficient.

[-] WestBromwich@feddit.uk 1 points 23 hours ago

Yeah something like that probably would be sufficient. But maybe Starmer's statement was more flattering because he really wants the US-UK relationship to work. Europe perhaps doesn't need to be so flattering, especially since Europe is a much bigger bloc, so it can throw its own weight around a bit more (e.g. if the EU introduced tariffs on US goods it would presumably hurt the US more, compared to if Britain did the same thing).

Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] WestBromwich@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

Maybe something that hurt Kamala was her use of top music stars... maybe average Americans feel those celebrities are out of touch with average people. I saw this on BBC News:

a Republican at one Trump rally... said their candidate had completely "reimagined" the Republican party from its country club voter stereotype to appealing to working class families, while the Democrats had become the "party of Hollywood"

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

lets see what position germany has in the brown-nosing the next president competition

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Double checks publication.

No, not the onion.

When people tell you who they are (at the very fucking least cordial with literal fascists), believe them.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/romeo-kokriatski-respectability-politics-or-you-gotta-be-nice-to-monsters

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean I get you, but it's not worth burning bridges with a very close ally just so you can look based on a tweet.

The US is very powerful and Trump has proven himself to be very petty. He could make life difficult for the UK, and we're in a precarious position to begin with.

We have to put up with the US's shit decision and try to minimise the damage. It's 4 years.

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The past is the past. Kier doesn't have a time machine, nor was anything the UK did under the previous Trump government his fault.

It's 4 years from now.

[-] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Diplomacy means you have to be friendly with people you'd probably rather not be.

Start telling other world leaders to fuck off, and see where it gets you.

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