Something tells me the Trump Administration won't allow this ban to go through.
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Fucking finally.
Is this the shit they started using when they started using the original stuff to make meth?
By my understanding yes, pseudoephedrine was being used for meth so they put it behind the counter and the name brand "Sudafed" made a PE line that was this, phenylephrine, to stay over the counter.
No worries, three months from now it'll all be back on the shelves again
If you want some real solid advice: never buy the nasal spray that has phenylephrine. It may well be one of the most addictive substances man has ever made.
The pills do absolutely nothing. About once or twice a year I have to get the good stuff from the pharmacy, but I've refused to even buy the new stuff.
I can't help but feel like they could just put something in the regular Sudafed to make it not methy, but I took physics and not chemistry so idk.
I can’t help but feel like they could just put something in the regular Sudafed to make it not methy
Sudafed is not "methy", but it can be used to make meth
That's what I meant by methy.
What do I use then? I'm already addicted to Oxymetazoline (Afrin) and I need a way out. I've tried Propylhexedrine (Benzedrex) but it works for all of 30 seconds before I'm congested again. Even quitting cold turkey didn't work. I went an entire year without any nasal spray, suffered through the rebound congestion for over a month and was in the clear for awhile... Until the congestion came back. I don't know what to do.
I swear by this stuff and saline mist. You can use it as much as you want. It's the miracle nobody is willing to try.
The newer allergy medicine is good, but I think you have to take it for a couple of months before you really notice it. I like the generic Allegra from Costco.
And get some real Sudafed from the pharmacy. I do the generic 12 hour and split them in half (helps you from feeling queasy).
You can roll your own saline nasal rinse, but it takes a little care to get the salinity just right. And best to boil the water first in case of brain eating amoebas (seriously
not common, but very, very bad).
It's a little weird the first couple times you do it, but holy shit is it the most effective way to deal with congestion for me, but a fucking long shot. For real, saline sinus rinse works like a fucking miracle
I like in the article how it says they'll get some time to reformulate, but if it doesn't work, they could just turn off the widget inserting it and bobs your uncle!
Interesting. I use phenylephrine pills (no other active ingredients) for nasal congestion every time I'm sick, and it has always worked very well for me
I do tend to be extra sensitive to most drugs though, so maybe that has something to do with it
Maybe for you it does, although you'd need to test with placebo to really know. It's amazing how much our minds can effect things if we expect things to change.
It could also be that your pills are a significantly higher dose. If 1% is absorbed orally, maybe that pill has 100x the dose required otherwise.
Sooo I see the thread is full of US people here and it's so strange. I don't have drug brand preferences. I go to my doctor, my doctor tells me what to take, I go to the pharmacy, they give it to me, and I take it as instructed.
Am I missing out on anything?
These are over-the counter cough suppressants that you buy from the store without ever needing to see a doctor.
I still usually call my doctor for OTC stuff, and if my doctor says I need it, insurance gets to pay for it. Going to the doctor usually saves me money. And if I schedule it during a workday, it's not my time going either but my employer's, if it even needs more than a phone consult.
Over here having your doctor would cost at least a $40 copay and wouldn't get insurance to pay
Well look at fancy pants over here with a Doctor.
(Really here in Canada I have been without a Dr for about 9 years now, it sucks)
You're missing out on a lot of ads telling you how much you need to ask your doctor for certain drugs. That's about it.
Yet the homeopathy pills can still be on the shelves right next to real medicine.
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Good. Now do something about homeopathy. I'm so sick of having to explain to people that homeopathy is not medicine in any shape or form. It's not even a home remedy. And it sits right next to actual medicine so people might accidentally buy it unwittingly.
This was so infuriating during covid as it was hard to find children's cold medicine already and half the time you'd see a couple bottles of "Children's cold and flu" on the shelf, buy it, and get home before you notice "homeopathic" written in 3pt font along the bottom of the bottle. Shit's completely useless.
I've gotten into the habit of checking active ingredients after almost accidentally buying something homeopathic that was immediately adjacent the thing I actually meant to grab.
I'm sure the Trump Administration will get right on banning homeopathy, or even just labelling it properly. lol
Most certainly! They surely won't completely dismantle the FDA and then allow big-pharma to dictate everything. /s
The problem is, unlike homeopathy, this drug was ineffective for what it was approved for while actually causing side effects. At least the water doesn't do anything.
Right? You can't even get ear drops that work anymore because all of the ones they stock over the counter are homeopathic where I live.
Ummm they did? That is what this banned, an advertised effective treatment that does nothing.
Tell me you didn't read the article without telling me you didn't read the article.
Seriously dude, you just had to read the first sentence. They only banned one particular ingredient.
That is included in most over the counter decongestants as the active ingredient.
Please tell me this is not the first you have heard of the switch to combat meth production to a worse then placibo replacement?
Dude, what are you even talking about?
I said it was good they banned the ineffective ingredient so now they should do something about banning homeopathy. You said, "Ummm they did? That is what this banned, an advertised effective treatment that does nothing" but they did NOT ban homeopathy, just that one specific ingredient which had nothing to do with homeopathy. Now you're talking as if the first comment you said was something completely different.
So please, tell me what argument you're actually trying to make.
It was a dig at things like nyquill being homeopathy, since they both are treatments that don't work being sold as if they do.
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