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[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It'll implode but there are much larger elephants in the room - geopolitical dumbassery and the suddenly transient nature of the CHIPS Act are two biggies.

Third, high flying growth, blue sky darlings, they're flaky. In a downturn growth is worth 0 fucking dollars, throw that shit in a dumpster and rotate into staples. People can push off a phone upgrade or new TV and cut down on subscriptions, but they'll always need Pampers.

The thing propping up AI and semis is an arms race between those high flying tech companies, so this whole thing is even more prone to imploding than tech itself, since a ton of revenue comes from tech. Sensitive sector supported by an already sensitive sector. House of cards with NVDA sitting right at the tippy top. Apple, Facebook, those kinds of companies, when they start trimming back it's over.

But, it's one of those things that is anyone's guess. When you think it's not even possible for everything to still have steam one of the big guys like TSMC posts some really delightful earnings and it gets another second wind, for the 29th time.

Definitely a house of cards tho, and suddenly a lot more precarious because suddenly nobody knows how policy will affect the industry or the market as a whole

They say shipping is the bellwhether of the economy and there's a lot of truth to that. I think semis are now the bellwhether of growth. Sit back and watch the change in the wind

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

nvidia at least sells shovels, they already made some real profit unlike openai

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

True, but it's not a competition. When big tech tightens their belts NVDA starves to death

Edit: guess I forgot to point out the hyperbole. Nvidia obviously won't literally die

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 day ago

Death?

They got the IP my man, pipe down.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Seems to me the rationale is flawed. Even if it isn't strong or general AI, LLM based AI has found a lot of uses. I also don't recognize the claimed ignorance among people working with it, about the limitations of current AI models.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you name some of those uses that you see lasting in the long term or even the medium term? Because while it has been used for a lot of things it seems to be pretty bad at the overwhelming majority of them.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

AI is already VERY successful in some areas, when you take a photo, it is treated with AI features to improve the image, and when editing photos on your phone, the more sophisticated options are powered by AI. Almost all new cars have AI features.
These are practical everyday uses, you don't even have to think about when using them.
But it's completely irrelevant if I can see use cases that are sustainable or not. The fact is that major tech companies are investing billions in this.
Of course all the biggest tech companies could all be wrong, but I bet they researched the issue more than me before investing.
Show me by what logic you believe to know better.

The claim that it needs to be strong AI to be useful is ridiculous.

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[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Great!! ....I don't what chatGPT to go anywhere, I use it every day and Google has become assss.

[–] RelativeArea0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

supermicro's accountants have just resigned 🤭

[–] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

It's gonna crash like a self driving tesla. It's gonna fall apart like a cybertrukkk.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just put another number behind it. Luddites won't know the difference.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

yep Knew ai should die some day.

[–] tupalos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ya AI was never going to be it. But I wouldn’t understate its impact even in its current stage. I think it’ll be a tool that will be incredibly useful for just about every industry

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

I believe this about as much as I believed the "We're about to experience the AI singularity" morons.

[–] karl_chungus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Even Pied Piper didn’t scale.

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