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Developed by UK provider Virgin Media O2 and announced on Thursday, "Daisy" is an AI-fuelled call answering service that aims to keep scam callers on the line as long as possible, meaning less time spent with potential human victims. It's the same idea we've seen in a fair few time-wasting bots in the past — and it's the signature strategy adopted by scam fighter Scamalot aka James Veitch.

O2 worked on the AI with YouTuber Jim Browning, whose scambusting work has seen him track and expose many a fraudulent scheme using various strategies.

Described by the company as "head of scammer relations", the Daisy AI is programmed to give rambling stories to callers — and I'm not going to lie, the details sound a little bit like age-based stereotyping of elderly women but who am I to say what a scammer will believe? According to O2, Daisy has told "meandering stories of her family, talked at length about her passion for knitting and provided exasperated callers with false personal information including made-up bank details." The company claims Daisy "has successfully kept numerous fraudsters on calls for 40 minutes at a time."

According to O2, Daisy is the result of multiple AI models that listen to the caller and make a live transcription. Then, the program generates an appropriate response from its language model, delivered in a human-like voice embedded with Daisy's personality.

You won't be able to interact with Daisy yourself (unless you're a scammer). When I reached out to the company for further information, an O2 spokesperson told me, "The purpose of creating Daisy was to both waste scammers time and to create a campaign to educate the public on the danger of scam calls. The tool was purpose built to interact with scammers and so is optimised to do that rather than have general conversations. Opening the tool up to everyone would also require a huge amount of computing power, so right now this isn’t something Daisy is able to do."

In the case that the scammer makes it through to you instead of Daisy, you can forward suspected scam calls and text messages to O2's existing blocking service at 7726.

Finally, a use for generative AI that I can get behind!

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[–] marduk@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)
  1. Spin up an AI voice detector service
  2. Spam ads for the service in India
  3. ???
  4. Profit!
[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 27 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That's what I was just thinking. Not long till bots talk to bots 24/7

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe it will keep them busy and they won't revolt and enslave us.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or they'll begin communicating in ways we can't imagine, and the uprAIsing will start far sooner than we can handle.

Of course, learning like that would mean as soon as they take control, everything connected will crash and burn and send us back to the 1970s, but maybe they'll manage to flop around on the floor long enough to wipe out humanity?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Oh shit, it'll be like when Colossus and Guardian started talking to each other!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW9MUd7mmag

And yes, that is National Treasure James Hong (always use his full title).

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Reminds me of a website I used to visit.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago

I do wonder how often that happens in places like Reddit.

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 5 days ago

Hey, whatever keeps them the fuck away from wasting people's times calling their phones.

It's just a matter of time before the scammer's AI bots are calling our AI bots

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago

the first genai thing i don't hate from the start lmao

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can't believe they didn't go with Edna.

[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m sure they thought about it but did the non-dickish move and didn’t steal Kitboga’s character.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah you're right.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Scams are getting way more advanced. Long gone are days of Nigerian princes with riches willing to share their fortunes. And GenAI will make things even worse.

Now it is really easy to clone someone's voice. It's both scary and dystopian.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago

Just two weeks ago, a deep fake attack involving a CEO's voice trying to get his employees credentials happened.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/28/wiz-ceo-says-company-was-targeted-with-deepfake-attack-that-used-his-voice/?guccounter=1

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What was that looped recording that already did this really well?

[–] GingerGoodness@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I love Lenny. Man, some of the calls are hilarious. I can't believe people who make it to the ducks like, 6 times and don't realize something is off.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This just uses more minutes. No wonder it was designed by a phone company ..

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

It doesn't use up your minutes. It's designed to work before it even gets to you.