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[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

As a Brit we were always taught to gently disturb leaf piles before jumping in them or throwing them into the fire, just in case hedgehogs were in there. The habit has stuck, although I now just rake our leaves up onto the mulched beds and leave them. The chickens will then pull them apart and consume any living thing unfortunate enough to live there.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I always mulch mine with my mower. Only bugs that might be in them is scorpions, grubs, ants, or the odd snake sometimes

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 34 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Or realize that there is still tons of land that isn't maintained and is actually a better habitat for bees anyway. Even in your own neighborhood ther is plenty of places that don't get tended to. This is really just a diversion to redirect people from all the things the ag industry does that harm the bees on a scale us individuals, even collectively can't hold a candle to. Remember when they tried to convince us that leaving the water running while we brush our teeth was a major usage of fresh water. But again, compared to the ag industry, all household water use is a drop in the bucket.

[–] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sure but.. It's still a really good advice and I'm glad someone posted it. I rarely rake away leaves for reasons like this, and this gives me one extra reason to not do so.

That doesn't mean you're wrong, but we can all be right : fight the important battles for large scale effects while enjoying the small scale effects of individual actions.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 2 hours ago

I think that they're just railing against the smoke show that would have us believe that our individual actions are more to blame than industry as a whole. You can recycle, you can drive a electric car, you can even generate your electricity and store it locally in a battery and not even use the grid but even if we all did that without change to heavy industry we are still screwed.

One small example of this is how big tobacco and big oil have used exactly the same tactics to distract us from what's really going on and protect their profits regardless of the harm to us as a species.

Would you like to know more? https://www.eenews.net/articles/big-tobacco-had-to-pay-206b-is-big-oil-next/

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 10 points 12 hours ago

For insects, pristine lawns are a huge problem. This isn't quite comparable.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Brings nutrients into your soil so you have a healthier lawn

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That has not been my experience. The leaves wreck the ph of the soil and block light from letting grass grow.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not much grass growing when it’s -20 out but you might have too many leaves so they don’t decompose fast enough during your winter

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah that's definitely the issue here. There's still a layer of wet leaves by the time the grass wants to start growing in the spring.

[–] Toes@ani.social 47 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure if I didn't do any yard work by May I'd have the city repossessing my home.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 31 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Start a movement to stop the city from forcing people to cut their yards. It creates smog, kills the insects we need for food, damages the native plants, wastes money, and looks ugly. Natural yards are awesome.

[–] ilhamagh@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How does cutting a yard contribute to smog? The Lawnmower?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Yep, all mowers are not required to have any capture equipment on them. They literally just exhaust unspent fuel and exhaust right out into the atmosphere.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'll (electrically) blow leaves off of walkways, but the vast majority of them stay put. Fuck a fucking lawn.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 13 hours ago

Fuck a fucking lawn.

Is that kinda like a putting green but for...?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've decided to leave the leaves on my yard and I swear my neighbors are mowing and leaf blowing twice as much just to spite me.

IDGAF. I'd rather have fireflies and bumblebees than human neighbors

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fireflies were spectacular this year.

In the front yard I let the wind take whatever leaves it takes. In the back I rake a path to the gates. Those leaves get put in a large open bin along my fence which makes nice soil in a year of so. Everything else is as nature intended.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I’m hoping I can stem the collapse. I saw three fireflies this past summer. Which is a 3x improvement over the summer before that.

But coming from a place where I could walk through the woods on a dark night just by the light of fireflies it hurts my soul to be somewhere so sterile.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

We don't get fireflies where I am, and one of my brothers took his kids on a trip to the Statesian South, his motivation being so they could see fireflies before they go extinct. I kind of wish I'd tagged along.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 25 points 1 day ago

And then they complain that their fruit garden isn't working.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 104 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Too bad HOAs are far more concerned with making sure everything looks plain and perfect to the 70 year old humans walking on the street rather than giving any craps about wildlife.

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 17 points 21 hours ago

In a previous house I rented, the HOA ladies would drive around the neighborhood roughly 3 times a week. There were less than 200 homes in the whole subdivision. Even if you walked slowly, it would only take an hour to walk the whole thing, but instead they drove.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (8 children)

You think anybody is walking on the street in the US?

[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not American but my understanding is that many of those "suburban" residential blocks have sidewalks and you can walk around withing the confinement of your block. However blocks are isolated from each other and you need a car to go somewhere else.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

There are places in the US, that when you buy a house or property, you are given a choice. You can build a sidewalk for it yourself, or you can pay the city/county for a sidewalk.

The thing is, if you pay the city/county for the sidewalk, they stipulate that they can build that sidewalk where ever they want. This does not have to include in front of, or anywhere near, your house

The US is a very strange place.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

My block of suburbia growing up only had a sidewalk for the last 2 houses on it, everyone else didn't get one

So that's nice

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

I'm increasingly seeing neighborhoods where there's only a sidewalk on one side of the street...and then it terminates for no reason...and then it starts again...

It's so bizarre.

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[–] noxy@yiffit.net 2 points 18 hours ago

You think otherwise?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

America build the suburbs as a big fake playground where you can walk your dog.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. There’s a lot in my neighborhood… And it’s annoying when there’s a perfectly good sidewalk right there.

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[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, they're also hostile to humans under the age of 70

[–] protist@mander.xyz 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't view this as a "pick up the leaves or not" false choice. I leave the leaves in some areas and mow over/pick them up in others. They're literally free mulch and compost

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

If you leave them all in place they all turn into free mulch and compost anyway. And you avoid using the fossil fuels to power the mower you don't need in the first place.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I have a battery powered mower and utility has done a pretty good job of incorporating renewables into their mix

I also have some small spots where I want grass

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[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

until it snows, then it becomes a slip-n-slide for all.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

our yard and sidewalks / pavement becomes slime slick if they're left around. I doubt there are many bees in my leaf piles, it's been raining for a month straight.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago

Just remember that month suggestions online are for certain geographic areas. You might need to move them earlier or later. (The best rules I have seen is when nights are above 50 F in North America)

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

In other words, leave nature alone and let it do the thing it designed itself to do

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