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Following a formal notice from the FNEF (https://fnef.fr/les-adherents/), Real-Debrid is strengthening its anti-piracy measures. As you already know, we actively comply with DMCA and are already blocking a certain number of infringing torrents. In the coming hours: - audiovisual files available on a number of cyberlockers listed on the USTR blacklist or listed in the European "CCounterfeit and Piracy Watch List" will all be blocked. - a filtering by file name will also be applied, in accordance with the request of the FNEF, this may unfortunately lead to false positives that we will process manually. - a blocking of all torrents hashes of private torrent trackers mentioned in cases at the Paris judicial court - a complete purge of files potentially cached on the previously mentioned criteria - the deactivation of the API endpoint /instantAvaibility - a blocking of counterfeit Kodi / Stremio applications to the extent that they are identifiable

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[–] truxnell@infosec.pub 46 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Been using traditional methods to get my isos and store them locally, and on arrs/Plex for well over a decade.

Honestly the debris stuff never ever interested me, unless the data is in your control locally the rug pull is always on the horizon.

I do wish we could make it easier for non-technical folk, not everyone is wrong in the head like I am to be happy enough building and maintaining a NAS and the software stack required.

[–] Thorned_Rose@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately not everyone has access to cheap storage so for us a few bucks a month is more cost effective than having to upgrade expensive storage regularly. 😓

[–] Evoliddaw@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Upgrading? Regularly? stares at 25x2TB ancient array

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Still more up front than a few dollars.

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[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Real debrid helped me download torrents that had 0 seeds when I tried in any. More than once.

Sad to see them go.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Also great for those files that can only be found in premium sites, even scribd.

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[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Bummer, I renewed my subscription for 6 months just two days ago.

I guess this'll finally be an excuse for me to setup Jellyfin and the arr-stack. I really don't mind too much (honestly I'd be fine just downloading torrents manually for whatever I want to watch) but my roommates really appreciated how easy to use Stremio is.

[–] thagoat@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You should probably try to get your money back via chargeback. This service is basically useless at this point, so might as well get money back better spent on something else if you still can. Worst they do is ban you from the service, a service they have already made not worth it anymore.

CC: @Evkob@lemmy.ca

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, I won't die over 20$, it's due to something out of their control that anyone could have seen coming, and I've been quite the satisfied customer since I've been using Real-Debrid. I wouldn't judge anyone for doing a chargeback, but I personally don't really feel the urge to do so.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago

That is true, $20 isn't much in this day and age. It's not something you're going to die over or be in trouble without. I would still do it mainly out of principle since I'd rather not help them along with one more payment like that. Of course I haven't ever signed up for them, and I obviously never intend to now.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Don't you have to pay for arr services?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

A VPN is the only bit you'd pay for, alongside the inevitable mass of HDDs to store everything on once you get addicted to just keeping everything forever in your own personal Netflix.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuckin hell don't I know it. Going on 2 HDDs and 1 SSD

[–] billygoat@catata.fish 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

20gb elements are on sale atm. Lowest price I’ve seen them. They are easy to shuck if you only want the drive. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VCXWPQG

[–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago

No, they directly download the files via torrents on your pc

[–] ladfrombrad@lemdro.id 7 points 4 weeks ago

They're not services per se, but are a stack of software that you can kinda "clump" together for the lack of a better word.

For instance I started using qbittorrent client recently instead of Transmission that I was using before as my torrent client because I can't find a way for Transmission to not download malware, and you can also do the very same with the indexer clients such as Jackett or Prowlarr which then talk to other software such as Radarr/Sonarr via API keys and is usually where most get caught out.

Read the docs, get thoroughly confused, and probably do it in docker too as everyone says if your hardware is sufficient.

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[–] icogniito@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 weeks ago

I’d recommend a move to torbox, trying it out now and honestly like it more than RD.

Thanks RD for helping me find a better service

[–] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Just in time for Usenet Black Friday sales :)

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

And what country are they located, pray tell?

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Glad I never subscribed to it.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Me too, I kind of always saw this coming and it really pissed me off when elitist pirates would try and bully people into buying it. Now I can and will rub their faces in it.

[–] Mondez@lemdro.id 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call anyone buying into a piracy service an elite pirate, they are the piracy equivalent of script kiddies.

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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean I'm just gonna go buy an identical service, so have fun with your face rubbing.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

I was mainly taking a jab at the original Kodi addons community which had a lot of very toxic and elitist people in it which would bully people for not wanting to buy, specifically, RealDebrid to use for addons which only work with RealDebrid. These people are very much screwed now because many of those addons were RealDebrid exclusive and are effectively broken because of it. They were warned about this many times before and they laughed at the people who warned them about this happening.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, I was planning on looking into RealDebrid over my week off in winter, but I guess that's done now, damn.

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[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

What are peoples preferred alternatives to use with stemio?

As others in this thread I literally just paid for 6 months on Realdebrid Woop!

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 weeks ago

Do a chargeback, get your money back for it, assuming you can and it hasn't been too long. What are they gonna do? Ban you? Ha that's rich their service is about to become darn near worthless, that's an empty threat that doesn't have any teeth. Download your existing files and get your money back from them.

[–] retro@infosec.pub 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

AllDebrid or Premiumize are both popular alternatives. AD is considerably cheaper, even with Premiumize's Black Friday sale in right now. However, Premiumize allows multiple connections, so if you can split the cost with someone, it becomes the cheaper option.

[–] Pyro@programming.dev 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would hold off on switching to AllDebrid for a bit, because they are also based in France and may be hit with a similar order.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah being in France for RealDebrid was weird for me and I knew one day it will come to an end.

[–] SmokeFree@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 weeks ago

there is also torbox and debrid-link fr

[–] MaggotInfested@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What is the USTR blacklist? how do we preserve this data before its lost?

[–] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

It looks like in terms of torrent sites

  • 1337x
  • rutracker
  • the pirate bay
  • torrentgalaxy (replaced RARBG)
  • yts

Are all on the list. seems like torrentio is gonna be a big victim of this.

More info here

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Apologies for being clueless but how does streamio/torrentio get affected by this?

[–] icogniito@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Completely fucked if you use realdebrid as endpoint.

They completely disabled their api endpoints, that means stremio can’t access the realdebrid servers

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this gonna hurt arr stack?

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

No

Edit: why the down votes? It has absolutely no impact on the arr-stack, I just answered their question...

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know, maybe people thought it was a lazy answer? People on Lemmy can be insanely unreasonable sometimes with how they vote content.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe you're right, but a simple question should get a simple answer IMO. I can't really see what else is needed to fully answer their question, further explanation is likely to just confuse them with unnecessary details.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I agree that simple questions can have simple answers. I was simply trying to offer an explanation as to why other people might downvote comments like this. But it's likely they aren't being reasonable.

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[–] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago

I am so glad I didn’t renew my subscription in September sheesh

[–] B1naryB0t@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Fuck I just bought 6 months zzzz

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 4 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

As I've said in other comments you can easily get your money back, probably would be worth it since it's not like RD will be of much use once they start pulling cached files.

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