Lot of good that decrying'll do now.
Democrats are done, elect a progressive party
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I’m actually kinda OK with this considering the circumstances.
With the republican’s capture of the presidency, congress, and the SCOTUS, there’s no way he’s going to suffer a day for his charges if the court pursued them.
The main problem was not sentencing him quickly when they had the chance. That’s the major fuckup.
Anyway, the dismissed charges are without prejudice. Which offers the opportunity (assuming trump survives his presidency, we don’t end up with a de facto republican dictatorship, etc) that he can be sentenced after his presidency.
But we all know how the courts love sentencing rich old white dudes.
I see it as a white flag. It's not gonna happen now, and it isn't going to happen later either. This battle they lost and that's that.
Democrats need to start worrying less about Trump the person and more about the potential ramifications we will face in the near and farther future. It seems Democrats have a 5 year plan and Republicans have a 50 year plan, that's why they keep gaining power and favor.
How so. Legally he can't take office according to the constitution. And thereby his charges in Georgia and NY would hit him still, as Vance couldn't pardon state charges. But yeah, we knew this would happen
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The party of law and order...for everyone but themselves.
Here comes 4 years of dem finger wagging
And don't forget conservative finger wagging.
"I'm sure he learned his lesson."
No one has pretended that in years.
It seems counter intuitive, but you want as little of this of this floating around as possible while he's in office. Act like nothing's pending throughout his term, then reopen this the minute he's out.
We don't need him having more motives to try to dictatorially stay in power after his term, and stuff like clearly pending trials and sentencings hanging over him the moment he leaves the WH could give him that extra incentive.
Who is going to stop Trump from just pardoning himself?
A heart attack before inauguration.
But then we have a couch fucker.
And I'm not sure which would be worse. Vance might be a bit more moderate on some things but his competence and ability to work with others makes him more dangerous on those.
I've been debating this with myself, and my conclusion is that Trump might be worse because Vance is at least a politician. He has some knowledge and "respect" (maybe) for the trappings of the office, whereas Trump gives no shits for rules or regulations and is all too happy to trample on every right and freedom we have.
But who knows, I could go both ways on which would be worse.
Vance is a smarmy piece of shit who will do anything for power and will bend over backwards for his owners who picked him to be vice president to make sure they had control when Trump dies.
Vance is absolutely much more the issue cause he won't have enough charisma and self aggrandizing to stand up for his own ideas like Trump does that slows his party down and occasionally creates tension. He will just "yes and" whatever is needed to be done.
Vance is a smarmy piece of shit who will do anything for power
You just described the entire Republican party.
But more to the point, the other side of the coin is that either Trump's views align with those of his owners, or he's just as easily manipulated, and either way, he believes himself to be a dictator and acts accordingly. He has no morals and no qualms about breaking the law. He says that people who disagree with him politically should be locked up and talks about how he needs generals like Hitler had. He has been putting people loyal to him in positions of power since day one of his first term. What infighting he has created in the Republican party may slow him down, but it might create more collateral along the way from his cronyism and disregard for rules of politics. At least Vance wouldn't be ignoring the FBI vetting his appointments and talking about replacing the heads of the FBI with people more loyal to him.
Both are bad for the country, I just don't know if I can say one would be worse than the other. Vance is the corrupt official while Trump is the Florida man riding the high of who only knows what squared up to fight 5 cops who will probably win the fight.
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This is how our nation falls. Not with a bang, but cowering and whimpering.
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"President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office, as an ordinary citizen, unless the statute of limitations has run, still liable for everything he did while in office, didn’t get away with anything yet – yet.”
— Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), on February 13, 2021, arguing against the need to impeach Donald Trump.
Breaking News: liberals once again forget which country they live in.
He's not sitting yet, you fucking bootlicker.