Whatβs the alternative if you try to avoid google?
this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2023
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Am a masochist and like to do things in spite others. I've been working through browser wars as a developer and hated every minute of adapting things to look good on IE. These days I really dislike Firefox. Mainly because they pretend things work fine and need no optimization or for being set in their ways. Took them embarrassingly long time to implement adwaita theme or Wayland and just told us to use other display server.
But I keep using it because I don't want Google to be this dominant. Giving them more power is always going to end worse for users. So as before am suffering again. Oh well.
For those claiming everything is still fine...
The desktop browser was better than IE back in the days and I like how they market/position themselves. Nowadays I switch between Chrome and Firefox just to have different containers (private and work), and yes I know this is also somewhat native supported in Firefox.. but it still felt unintuitive to me.
I recently started using Firefox on Android because of the new privacy sandbox strategy (which I'm not against per se, I don't know all the details yet though), but I must say.. it feels a bit buggy and seems to suffer from input lag. Too bad, the desktop experience is flawless.
Its the default on my Linux distro
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Because they stopped making new releases of Phoenix
I personally don't use Firefox as anything except a spare whenever a page doesn't load right in Vivaldi. Not only because I strongly dislike the way Mozilla itself is run (I'm not even going to get into their financial records) but also because of it's glacial development speed. Mozilla does pave the road in some ways with stuff like mobile extensions and an unprecedented amount privacy features. But it still takes them forever to do some of the most basic stuff. Still no native PWA's, Passkeys are still under development. It mildly feels understandable why people don't feel like testing with Firefox as much as they used to.
Even cutting Google's monopoly over the internet out of the equation, Firefox still doesn't feel that good. Sure, it might be the fastest browser on the market at the moment. But for a company being paid 450k for a search engine deal by the very thing that Firefox users hate, what gives with the amount of ads engrained in search and bookmarks, the occasional popups for Mozilla VPN/ FF Relay. And yes, I know you can turn them off, but it's ridiculous that a FOSS product even has them to begin with. Also how difficult it feels to be involved in the development of all Firefox products over on Mozilla Connect + Bugzilla + GitHub.
I have nothing against gecko based browsers, but until I see something truly stunning, I don't really want to bother. I know Librewolf exists and solves some of the problems with modern Firefox (also being even more hardened than Firefox), but given Librewolf is also a hobby project that deliberately doesn't accept donations nor even provide an auto update mechanism on macOS (the main system I use, in combination with my pixel devices), the bus factor is too strong for me to consider.
I don|t. I use Edge