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[–] atocci@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago (6 children)
[–] sxan@midwest.social 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Factorio.

The factory must grow.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like to describe the aliens that attack you in factorio as environmentalists.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Pollution actually makes the bugs stronger. Maybe they like pollution and want to go eat it all up.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

They get stronger because they mutate to fight back

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[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They hate that fresh, artisanal air

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[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

The factory must grow

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Literally Satisfactory

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Holy shit! Avatar is about capitalism? How did I miss that?! I better rewatch it and see if it's a recurring theme.

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[–] egrets@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

- Jack Handey

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (15 children)

What do you mean? Communists didn't mine minerals and didn't exploit indigenous people? Lol..

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I dont get it either. This is not about capitalism, this is about human nature of mindless expansion and exploitation...

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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Difference being the colonists of our world left perfectly habitable areas. In avatar the earth isn't habitable to most and so the colonists are actually kind of sympathetic. The real bad guys never have to leave earth but because it's Cameron it falls on the poors to play the bad guys

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm torn, because there's an idea that industrial capital only knows how to consume and destroy what it touches. And there's ample evidence to that effect.

But there's this other more naive notion that life never changes, species don't compete for habitat, and doing anything to alter the local ecology is this unforgivable sin. This, despite the fact that everything in the area is itself a product of eons of speciation and evolution and carnivorization.

The impulse to preserve has to be balanced with the expectation for change. The goal should be symbiosis, not stasis.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

The issue is that you're changing the ecosystems and environments so much that all those eons of evolution are simply lost. The only other times this happens is during natural catastrophes. Sure, in the long run this allows new life forms to take the old ones places, but it's still a massive loss of diversity and evolutionary knowledge - and unnecessary suffering for millions of living beings.

When species compete for a habitat, they rarely destroy it - and those species that do either don't survive for long, or they wipe out large swaths. We're actively killing almost anything in our habitats, and destroying them for almost all previous species.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does this imply communism wouldn't extract resources?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

That's what I was wondering. Capitalists didn't invent exploitation of nature, it just so happened that its worldwide adoption coincided with unprecedented technological advances. There's quite a few examples of historical societies that exploited nature as much as they could and suffered for it.

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