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Let's not turn this into what the Reddit subreddit of Piracy has turned into and that's an endless sea of questions that are all the same - "Do I need a VPN?".

And the loud and vocal answer to such a question is - yes. Yes you do need a VPN for pirating. Nobody gets a VPN for casual use and I'm under the impression that VPN services know a lot of people are going to be going to them for pirating and not just accessing content out of their country. And it's for that reason, is why I'm skeptical on entrusting my activity with the bigger VPN names available.

I use ProtonVPN myself, by the way.

Pirating under your raw IP address, only will set you up to get pegged by your ISP whether it's in a short time or a long time. I've only ever gotten one single ISP letter in my entire 26 years of pirating and it was simply because I downloaded without a VPN. Well I was also downloading off of someone else's network to take the fall, but I was confronted about it either way.

And I've gotten away with so much pirating because of my careful cautiousness when it comes to pirating. That and this applies to the United States, but the statue of limitations is 3 years when it comes to copyright infringement. So, good fucking luck to any ISP or so that wishes to try and nail me for something I downloaded 10 years ago, but I digress.

But a large part of me avoiding so much does contribute to having a VPN. So, yes, VPN is required. Please don't ask anybody in the pirating community 100 questions that are all just ways to ask whether or not you need a VPN. You do.

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[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

I don't have to worry about any of this because I live in Denmark! It is not possible for me to pirate stuff because it implies that I did not pay, which I did as there is a special piracy tax!

We call it 'blankmedieafgiften'.

~~we call it 'kulturarvsafgiften' and apparently you can't google it which I'm not gonna imply any conspiracies about but yknow~~

[–] antipiratgruppen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Do you know, is this another tax additional to "blankmedieafgiften" ("blank media tax" or "private copying levy"), or is it the same tax under a different name?

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[–] camilobotero@feddit.dk 3 points 21 hours ago

I live in Denmark (no Dane) and I never heard about it. Interesting to know.

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[–] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your mileage may vary. 25 years of downloading shit without a VPN and I never had a problem.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No doubt about the same and I have pirated everything.

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[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

Not everyone is US based, but ofc it's an understandable assumption since it's a very populous and well Internet-connected country (plus we're discussing in English).

To save one's behind when torrenting (pirating is a bit generic), a VPN is a great tool, but falling into the privacy/security and legal nightmare of a cheap service installing malware (or getting their proprietary app hacked) and/or stealing residential connections is a big risk (like with those services where a huge budget is spent on predatory marketing on youtube); paradoxically having that unrestricted VPN app installed might mean that a lot more people are torrenting with your residential connection. This point is not a deal breaker, just a "beware", do your homework and isolate that connection within your OS or even better within your network.

Other counterpoint: within a country where they haven't started to really crack down on it, you are protected by the impossibility of fining / suing / arresting millions of people at once. More people sign up for VPNs and torrent from outside the country, the more their connationals will also need protection.

Sorry for the wall of text..

[–] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Keep in mjnd that in the US, downloading isnt the illegal part, its providing the file to others (seeding).

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[–] SmokeFree@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know 2 Germans. They prefer Usenet over VPN. USA gives you warning. Germans don't give warning.

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[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 10 points 1 day ago

UseNet over SSL?

[–] Dalraz@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So i see this alot and i understand it but at least in my country (canada) i have been torrenting for well over 15 years with out a vpn. The worst case is a 5k fine total but not before a letter from the isp forwarded to me on behalf of the copyright holder. Which i can ignore with out any issue since they have no idea who i am.

Issues will arise if you reply to them.

So is vpn required?

it depends on where you live and your confort with your risk.

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[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago
[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

pirating without a vpn is like having a naked phone. sure it's great but at what cost.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago

Amen to that!

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