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We are officially finished with The Book. Now onto something that matters.

Today is an exploratory session to explore the lemmy codebase, see how well it's documented, and make targets for contribution.

If anyone's following along this week is dedicated to familiarizing ourselves with the codebase. Pull it down, set up our dev environment, run the code. After that pick a directory and attempt to explain a few functions to a duck. If a duck is not present find a google search result for the term "duck" will suffice.

As always, a stream will be available at the following link of myself doing this for around 2 hours starting one hour after this post is made. https://www.twitch.tv/deerfromsmoke

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Welcome to week 31 of Reading Club for Rust’s “The Book” (“The Rust Programming Language”).

“The Reading”

Chapter 21:
https://rust-book.cs.brown.edu/ch18-03-pattern-syntax.html (the special Brown University version with quizzes etc)

The Twitch Stream

Starting today within the hour @sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works twitch stream on this chapter: https://www.twitch.tv/deerfromsmoke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou2c5J6FmsM&list=PL5HV8OVwY_F9gKodL2S31czb7UCwOAYJL (YouTube Playlist)

Be sure to catch future streams (will/should be weekly: https://www.twitch.tv/deerfromsmoke)

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Intro

Having read through the macros section of "The Book" (Chapter 19.6), I thought I would try to hack together a simple idea using macros as a way to get a proper feel for them.

The chapter was a little light, and declarative macros (using macro_rules!), which is what I'll be using below, seemed like a potentially very nice feature of the language ... the sort of thing that really makes the language malleable. Indeed, in poking around I've realised, perhaps naively, that macros are a pretty common tool for rust devs (or at least more common than I knew).

I'll rant for a bit first, which those new to rust macros may find interesting or informative (it's kinda a little tutorial) ... to see the implementation, go to "Implementation (without using a macro)" heading and what follows below.

Using a macro

Well, "declarative macros" (with macro_rules!) were pretty useful I found and easy to get going with (such that it makes perfect sense that they're used more frequently than I thought).

  • It's basically pattern matching on arbitrary code and then emitting new code through a templating-like mechanism (pretty intuitive).
  • The type system and rust-analyzer LSP understand what you're emitting perfectly well in my experience. It really felt properly native to rust.

The Elements of writing patterns with "Declarative macros"

Use macro_rules! to declare a new macro

Yep, it's also a macro!

Create a structure just like a match expression

  • Except the pattern will match on the code provided to the new macro
  • ... And uses special syntax for matching on generic parts or fragments of the code
  • ... And it returns new code (not an expression or value).

Write a pattern as just rust code with "generic code fragment" elements

  • You write the code you're going to match on, but for the parts that you want to capture as they will vary from call to call, you specify variables (or more technically, "metavariables").
    • You can think of these as the "arguments" of the macro. As they're the parts that are operated on while the rest is literally just static text/code.
  • These variables will have a name and a type.
  • The name as prefixed with a dollar sign $ like so: $GENERIC_CODE.
  • And it's type follows a colon as in ordinary rust: $GENERIC_CODE:expr
    • These types are actually syntax specifiers. They specify what part of rust syntax will appear in the fragment.
    • Presumably, they link right back into the rust parser and are part of how these macros integrate pretty seamlessly with the type system and borrow checker or compiler.
    • Here's a decent list from rust-by-example (you can get a full list in the rust reference on macro "metavariables"):
      • block
      • expr is used for expressions
      • ident is used for variable/function names
      • item
      • literal is used for literal constants
      • pat (pattern)
      • path
      • stmt (statement)
      • tt (token tree)
      • ty (type)
      • vis (visibility qualifier)

So a basic pattern that matches on any struct while capturing the struct's name, its only field's name, and its type would be:

macro_rules! my_new_macro {
    (
        struct $name:ident {
            $field:ident: $field_type:ty
        }
    )
}

Now, $name, $field and $field_type will be captured for any single-field struct (and, presumably, the validity of the syntax enforced by the "fragment specifiers").

Capture any repeated patterns with + or *

  • Yea, just like regex
  • Wrap the repeated pattern in $( ... )
  • Place whatever separating code that will occur between the repeats after the wrapping parentheses:
    • EG, a separating comma: $( ... ),
  • Place the repetition counter/operator after the separator: $( ... ),+

Example

So, to capture multiple fields in a struct (expanding from the example above):

macro_rules! my_new_macro {
    (
        struct $name:ident {
            $field:ident: $field_type:ty,
            $( $ff:ident : $ff_type: ty),*
        }
    )
}
  • This will capture the first field and then any additional fields.
    • The way you use these repeats mirrors the way they're captured: they all get used in the same way and rust will simply repeat the new code for each repeated captured.

Writing the emitted or new code

Use => as with match expressions

  • Actually, it's => { ... }, IE with braces (not sure why)

Write the new emitted code

  • All the new code is simply written between the braces
  • Captured "variables" or "metavariables" can be used just as they were captured: $GENERIC_CODE.
  • Except types aren't needed here
  • Captured repeats are expressed within wrapped parentheses just as they were captured: $( ... ),*, including the separator (which can be different from the one used in the capture).
    • The code inside the parentheses can differ from that captured (that's the point after all), but at least one of the variables from the captured fragment has to appear in the emitted fragment so that rust knows which set of repeats to use.
    • A useful feature here is that the repeats can be used multiple times, in different ways in different parts of the emitted code (the example at the end will demonstrate this).

Example

For example, we could convert the struct to an enum where each field became a variant with an enclosed value of the same type as the struct:

macro_rules! my_new_macro {
    (
        struct $name:ident {
            $field:ident: $field_type:ty,
            $( $ff:ident : $ff_type: ty),*
        }
    ) => {
        enum $name {
            $field($field_type),
            $( $ff($ff_type) ),*
        }
    }
}

With the above macro defined ... this code ...

my_new_macro! {
    struct Test {
        a: i32,
        b: String,
        c: Vec<String>
    }
}

... will emit this code ...

enum Test {
    a(i32),
    b(String),
    c(Vec<String>)
}

Application: "The code" before making it more efficient with a macro

Basically ... a simple system for custom types to represent physical units.

The Concept (and a rant)

A basic pattern I've sometimes implemented on my own (without bothering with dependencies that is) is creating some basic representation of physical units in the type system. Things like meters or centimetres and degrees or radians etc.

If your code relies on such and performs conversions at any point, it is way too easy to fuck up, and therefore worth, IMO, creating some safety around. NASA provides an obvious warning. As does, IMO, common sense and experience: most scientists and physical engineers learn the importance of "dimensional analysis" of their calculations.

In fact, it's the sort of thing that should arguably be built into any language that takes types seriously (like eg rust). I feel like there could be an argument that it'd be as reasonable as the numeric abstractions we've worked into programming??

At the bottom I'll link whatever crates I found for doing a better job of this in rust (one of which seemed particularly interesting).

Implementation (without using a macro)

The essential design is (again, this is basic):

  • A single type for a particular dimension (eg time or length)
  • Method(s) for converting between units of that dimension
  • Ideally, flags or constants of some sort for the units (thinking of enum variants here)
    • These could be methods too
#[derive(Debug)]
pub enum TimeUnits {s, ms, us, }

#[derive(Debug)]
pub struct Time {
    pub value: f64,
    pub unit: TimeUnits,
}

impl Time {
    pub fn new<T: Into<f64>>(value: T, unit: TimeUnits) -> Self {
        Self {value: value.into(), unit}
    }

    fn unit_conv_val(unit: &TimeUnits) -> f64 {
        match unit {
            TimeUnits::s => 1.0,
            TimeUnits::ms => 0.001,
            TimeUnits::us => 0.000001,
        }
    }

    fn conversion_factor(&self, unit_b: &TimeUnits) -> f64 {
        Self::unit_conv_val(&self.unit) / Self::unit_conv_val(unit_b)
    }

    pub fn convert(&self, unit: TimeUnits) -> Self {
        Self {
            value: (self.value * self.conversion_factor(&unit)),
            unit
        }
    }
}

So, we've got:

  • An enum TimeUnits representing the various units of time we'll be using
  • A struct Time that will be any given value of "time" expressed in any given unit
  • With methods for converting from any units to any other unit, the heart of which being a match expression on the new unit that hardcodes the conversions (relative to base unit of seconds ... see the conversion_factor() method which generalises the conversion values).

Note: I'm using T: Into<f64> for the new() method and f64 for Time.value as that is the easiest way I know to accept either integers or floats as values. It works because i32 (and most other numerics) can be converted lossless-ly to f64.

Obviously you can go further than this. But the essential point is that each unit needs to be a new type with all the desired functionality implemented manually or through some handy use of blanket trait implementations

Defining a macro instead

For something pretty basic, the above is an annoying amount of boilerplate!! May as well rely on a dependency!?

Well, we can write the boilerplate once in a macro and then only provide the informative parts!

In the case of the above, the only parts that matter are:

  • The name of the type/struct
  • The name of the units enum type we'll use (as they'll flag units throughout the codebase)
  • The names of the units we'll use and their value relative to the base unit.

IE, for the above, we only need to write something like:

struct Time {
    value: f64,
    unit: TimeUnits,
    s: 1.0,
    ms: 0.001,
    us: 0.000001
}

Note: this isn't valid rust! But that doesn't matter, so long as we can write a pattern that matches it and emit valid rust from the macro, it's all good! (Which means we can write our own little DSLs with native macros!!)

To capture this, all we need are what we've already done above: capture the first two fields and their types, then capture the remaining "field names" and their values in a repeating pattern.

Implementation of the macro

The pattern

macro_rules! unit_gen {
    (
        struct $name:ident {
            $v:ident: f64,
            $u:ident: $u_enum:ident,
            $( $un:ident : $value:expr ),+
        }
    )
}
  • Note the repeating fragment doesn't provide a type for the field, but instead captures and expression expr after it, despite being invalid rust.

The Full Macro

macro_rules! unit_gen {
    (
        struct $name:ident {
            $v:ident: f64,
            $u:ident: $u_enum:ident,
            $( $un:ident : $value:expr ),+
        }
    ) => {
        #[derive(Debug)]
        pub struct $name {
            pub $v: f64,
            pub $u: $u_enum,
        }
        impl $name {
            fn unit_conv_val(unit: &$u_enum) -> f64 {
                match unit {
                $(
                    $u_enum::$un => $value
                ),+
                }
            }
            fn conversion_factor(&self, unit_b: &$u_enum) -> f64 {
                Self::unit_conv_val(&self.$u) / Self::unit_conv_val(unit_b)
            }
            pub fn convert(&self, unit: $u_enum) -> Self {
                Self {
                    value: (self.value * self.conversion_factor(&unit)),
                    unit
                }
            }
        }
        #[derive(Debug)]
        pub enum $u_enum {
            $( $un ),+
        }
    }
}

Note the repeating capture is used twice here in different ways.

  • The capture is: $( $un:ident : $value:expr ),+

And in the emitted code:

  • It is used in the unit_conv_val method as: $( $u_enum::$un => $value ),+
    • Here the ident $un is being used as the variant of the enum that is defined later in the emitted code
    • Where $u_enum is also used without issue, as the name/type of the enum, despite not being part of the repeated capture but another variable captured outside of the repeated fragments.
  • It is then used in the definition of the variants of the enum: $( $un ),+
    • Here, only one of the captured variables is used, which is perfectly fine.

Usage

Now all of the boilerplate above is unnecessary, and we can just write:

unit_gen!{
    struct Time {
        value: f64,
        unit: TimeUnits,
        s: 1.0,
        ms: 0.001,
        us: 0.000001
    }
}

Usage from main.rs:

use units::Time;
use units::TimeUnits::{s, ms, us};

fn main() {

    let x = Time{value: 1.0, unit: s};
    let y = x.convert(us);

    println!("{:?}", x);
    println!("{:?}", x);
}

Output:

Time { value: 1.0, unit: s }
Time { value: 1000000.0, unit: us }
  • Note how the struct and enum created by the emitted code is properly available from the module as though it were written manually or directly.
  • In fact, my LSP (rust-analyzer) was able to autocomplete these immediately once the macro was written and called.

Crates for unit systems

I did a brief search for actual units systems and found the following

dimnesioned

dimensioned documentation

  • Easily the most interesting to me (from my quick glance), as it seems to have created the most native and complete representation of physical units in the type system
  • It creates, through types, a 7-dimensional space, one for each SI base unit
  • This allows all possible units to be represented as a reduction to a point in this space.
    • EG, if the dimensions are [seconds, meters, kgs, amperes, kelvins, moles, candelas], then the Newton, m.kg / s^2 would be [-2, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0].
  • This allows all units to be mapped directly to this consistent representation (interesting!!), and all operations to then be done easily and systematically.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure if the repository is still maintained.

uom

uom documentation

  • This might actually be good too, I just haven't looked into it much
  • It also seems to be currently maintained

F#

Interestingly, F# actually has a system built in!

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The post mentions data or research on how rust usage in is resulting in fewer errors in comparison to C. Anyone aware of good sources for that?

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A supplement to typical tutorials that caters to C programmers interested in learning how to be unsafe upfront.

Seems good from a quick skim. Also seems that the final lesson is that starting on the safe/happy path in rust doesn’t have to cost performance if you know what you’re doing.

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

Just a quick riff/hack on whether it'd be hard to make a collect() method that "collected" into a Vec without needing any turbofish (see, if you're interested, my prior post on the turbofish.

Some grasp of traits and iteration is required to comfortably get this ... though it might be a fun dive even if you're not

Background on collect

The implementation of collect is:

fn collect<B: FromIterator<Self::Item>>(self) -> B
where
    Self: Sized,
{
    FromIterator::from_iter(self)
}

The generic type B is bound by FromIterator which basically enables a type to be constructed from an Iterator. In other words, collect() returns any type that can be built from an interator. EG, Vec.

The reason the turbofish comes about is that, as I said above, it returns "any type" that can be built from an iterator. So when we run something like:

let z = [1i32, 2, 3].into_iter().collect();

... we have a problem ... rust, or the collect() method has no idea what type we're building/constructing.

More specifically, looking at the code for collect, in the call of FromIterator::form_iter(self), which is calling the method on the trait directly, rust has no way to determine which implementation of the trait to use. The one on Vec or HashMap or String etc??

Thus, the turbofish syntax specifies the generic type B which (somehow through type inference???) then determines which implementation to use.

let z = [1i32, 2, 3].into_iter().collect::<Vec<_>>();

IE: Use the implementation on Vec!

Why not just use Vec?

I figure Vec is used so often as the type for collecting an Iterator that it could be nice to have a convenient method.

The docs even hint at this by suggesting that calling the FromIterator::from_iter() method directly from the desired type (eg Vec) can be more readable (see FromIterator docs).

EG ... using collect:

let d = [1i32, 2, 3];
let x = d.iter().map(|x| x + 100).collect::<Vec<_>>();

Using Vec::from_iter()

let y = Vec::from_iter(d.iter().map(|x| x + 100));

As Vec is always in the prelude (IE, it's always available), using from_iter clearly seems like a nicer option here.

But you lose method chaining! So ... how about a method on Iterator, like collect but for Vec specifically? How would you make that and is it hard??

Making collect_vec()

It's not hard actually

  • Define a trait, CollectVec that defines a method collect_vec which returns Vec<Self::Item>
  • Make this a "sub-trait" of Iterator (or, make Iterator the "supertrait") so that the Iterator::collect() method is always available
  • Implement CollectVec for all types that implement Iterator by just calling self.collect() ... the type inference will take care of the rest, because it's clear that a Vec will be used.
trait CollectVec: Iterator {
    fn collect_vec(self) -> Vec<Self::Item>;
}

impl<I: Iterator> CollectVec for I {
    fn collect_vec(self) -> Vec<Self::Item> {
        self.collect()
    }
}

With this you can then do the following:

let d = [1i32, 2, 3];
let d2 = d.iter().map(|x| x + 1).collect_vec();

Don't know about you, but implementing such methods for the common collection types would suit me just fine ... that turbofish is a pain to write ... and AFAICT this isn't inconsistent with rust's style/design. And it's super easy to implement ... the type system handles this issue very well.

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I hadn't thought about this until now. Handy.

Of course there's the f64 equivalent: std::f64::consts

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This pertains to Ch 16.03 of The Book, specifically Arc in multithreaded programs

I was just looking at the signature for thread::spawn (documentation linked to by post URL) wondering if and how the requirement for a thread-safe smart pointer is enforced by the type system. In short, how is the use of Arc necessitated by the type system??

For the signature, you get this:

pub fn spawn<F, T>(f: F) -> JoinHandle<T>
where
    F: FnOnce() -> T + Send + 'static,
    T: Send + 'static,

Where the parameter f is bound by F: FnOnce() -> T + Send + 'static.

And ... I'm not entirely sure how I should think about this.

Obviously, Send and 'static here are related to my question, where in some way the closure must be thread-safe (through the Send trait) and also have a whole-life-of-the-program lifetime (through the 'static lifetime). Therefore, in some way, something like Rc would be invalid but Arc would be.

But how exactly?

  1. Are the bounds on the return type of the function/closure, which then sort of back propagate onto the input parameters or captured values of the function/closure?
  2. Or are these somehow properties of the function itself?
  3. And why is T separately bound by Send + 'static when they are already present in the bounds on F?

My best guess is that the bounds on F are best parsed as ...

F: ( FnOnce() -> T ) + Send + 'static
T: Send + 'static

IE, Everything separated by a + is unitary, and, therefore, FnOnce() -> T is a single bound and Send another separate bound.

But I'm unsure about that, haven't read that anywhere, and am not really sure how to understand how exactly a function can have Send or 'static without some logic linking that directly to its input parameters?

Thoughts?

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I'll be clear, quite embarrassingly I bit my tongue hard last night and haven't been talking right all day. Hurts to talk, hurts to eat, and worst of all hot tea is undrinkable. How will I live. Now I know exactly what it feels like to be soldier wounded in combat.

Will resume next week in full force. In the meantime however please feel free to read ahead. Or, alternatively, try out a few leetcode\advent of code questions. This what I'll be doing tonight.

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

The about section of the linked page has links and a brief explanation of the story.

In my own words ...

Description of the Turbo-fish syntax

  • Whenever a generic type (see ch 10 of The Book) is involved in calling a function/method or constructing/handling a struct/enum, you may need to specify that concrete type for that generic.
  • This type is provided with the turbo fish syntax: ::<> ... where the type goes between the angle brackets.
  • EG:
let v = Vec::new();

let v2 = Vec::<i32>::new()
  • The elements of v have an undefined type, which rust will infer once an element is pushed into it. But v2 has a defined element type, i32, defined using the turbo fish.

The Story

  • This syntax wasn't always liked, and the double colons (::) thought redundant.
  • But it stuck
  • And was given the name "turbo-fish" by Anna Harren (u/deadstone, Reddit) ... who sadly passed away in 2021.
  • It turns out that the double colons are pretty vital to preventing ambiguity.
  • This is enshrined in the Bastion of the Turbofish which stands as a memorial to Anna Harren ...
  • a test in the language's test suite that ensures that the double-colons syntax isn't removed by directly using the ambiguous syntax that'd arise without it.
  • See if you can understand the test (it took me a while! ... this HN post might help):
let (the, guardian, stands, resolute) = ("the", "Turbofish", "remains", "undefeated");
let _: (bool, bool) = (the<guardian, stands>(resolute));

hint: what are angle brackets normally used for and how are bool types related to that?

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Nice and handy reference with explanations and examples.

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

You've gotta be familiar with Traits to try to work this out.

Just in case you want to try to work it out your self firstGotta say, after hearing that rust is not an OOP/Class-inheritance language, and is strongly and explicitly typed, the Deref trait feels like a helluva drug!

Obviously it's not the same thing, but working this out definitely had me making a couple of double takes.

Somewhat awkwardly, I worked it out through the standard lib docs before reading ch 15 of the book (it's more fun this way!).

And for those who want a quick answer:

  • Read the Deref docs, especially the deref coercion part
  • This allows a variable of a particular type to be implicitly substituted with another variable of a different type.
  • It happens any time a reference is passed in/out of a function, including self in method calls.
    • And obviously requires that Deref be implemented.
  • So sort() isn't implemented on Vec, it's implemented on the slice type ([T]).
  • But Vec implements Deref, substituting [T] for Vec<T> in all function/method calls.
  • Which means Vec gets all of the methods implemented on [T] ... almost like Vec is a subclass of [T]!
  • And yea, OOP people want to abuse this (see, eg, rust-unofficial on anti-patterns)
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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Jayjader@jlai.lu to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

What?

I will be holding the fifteenth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

Last time we began chapter 7 (Managing Growing Projects with Packages, Crates, and Modules), and read up through section 7.3 (Paths for Referring to an item in the Module Tree). This time we will start at section 7.4 (Bringing Paths Into Scope with the use Keyword).

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/8006138

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-07-01). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

EDIT: here's the recording: https://youtu.be/RI4D62MVvCA

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will be locally recorded, and uploaded afterwards to youtube (for now as well).

I will have on-screen:

  • the BU online version of The Book
  • a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup, cargo, and clippy)
  • some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
  • the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the book, both reading aloud the literal text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

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Continuing on from Chs 5 & 6 of "The Book" (see "Reading Club" post here), I don't think the Copy and Clone traits were quite given sufficient coverage.

So I thought I'd post my understanding here.

Tl;Dr

Copy Clone
Implicit Explicit (v.clone())
Simple (memcpy) Arbitrary
"cheap"/quick Potentially expensive
Simple types Any type

Derivable Traits

  • These are traits which have a standard implementation that can be freely and easily applied to structs and enums (IE, custom types).
  • The ones available in the standard library are listed in Appendix C of The Book. Other libraries/crates can apparently implement them too (though I don't know of any).
  • They are part of and use the Attributes syntax (see Documentation in the Rust Reference here): #[ATTRIBUTE].
  • To derive a trait we write #[derive(TRAIT1, TRAIT2, ...)] above our type declaration
#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
struct Copyable {
    field: i32,
}

#[derive(Clone)]
struct OnlyClonable {
    field: i32,
}

The Three Step Ladder

  • The two traits, Clone and Copy, are about providing opt-in options for custom types around what "ownership semantics" they obey.
  • "move semantics": are what we know for most types and have learnt about in ch 4. There is no copying, only the moving of ownership from one stack to another or the use of references and the "borrow checker" that verifies safety.
  • "Copy semantics": are what basic types like i32 enjoy. No ownership movements. Instead, these variables get implicitly copied, because they're simple and copying involves the same work involved in passing a memory address around.

The RFC for these traits puts it nicely ...

From RFC 0019 - Opt in built-in traits document on the Copy Trait

Effectively, there is a three step ladder for types:

  • If you do nothing, your type is linear, meaning that it moves from place to place and can never be copied in any way. (We need a better name for that.)
  • If you implement Clone, your type is cloneable, meaning that it moves from place to place, but it can be explicitly cloned. This is suitable for cases where copying is expensive.
  • If you implement Copy, your type is copyable, meaning that it is just copied by default without the need for an explicit clone. This is suitable for small bits of data like ints or points.

What is nice about this change is that when a type is defined, the user makes an explicit choice between these three options.

IE, "move semantics" are the default, "copy semantics" can be adopted, or clone for the more complicated data types or for where it is desired for duplication to be explicit.

  • Note that Clone is a supertrait of Copy, meaning that we have to derive Clone if we want to derive Copy, but can derive Clone on its own.
struct Movable {
	field: i32
}

#[derive(Clone)]
struct OnlyClonable {
    field: i32,
}

#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
struct Copyable {
    field: i32,
}

Example

Demonstrate how a struct with Copy obeys "copy semantics" and gets copied implicitly instead of "moved"

  • Declare structs, with derived traits, and define a basic function for taking ownership
fn check_if_copied<T: Clone>(x: T) -> T {
    println!("address: {:p} (from inner owning function)", &x);

    x
}

#[derive(Clone)]
struct OnlyClonable {
    field: i32,
}

#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
struct Copyable {
    field: i32,
}
  • Instantiate variables of both structs, cl that has Clone and cp that has Copy.
  • cl is moved into check_if_copied and so is no longer live or usable afterward.
  • cp is not moved into check_if_copied and lives beyond the call of check_if_copied.
let cl = OnlyClonable{field: 0};
let cp = Copyable{field: 1};


// OnlyClonable type obeys "move semantics"

check_if_copied(cl);  // cl gets moved in as it's not copyable

// COMPILER ERROR.  Can't do this! As moved into `report_if_copied`!
println!("address: {:p}", &cl);

// Copyable obeys "copy semantics"

check_if_copied(cp);  // cp is implicitly copied here!

// Can! as not moved but copied
println!("address: {:p}", &cp);

Demonstrate the same but with mutation

let mut mcp = Copyable{field: 1};

let mcp2 = check_if_copied(mcp);  // as mcp was implicitly copied, mcp2 is a new object
mcp.field += 100;

// values will be different, one was mutated and has kept the data from before the mutation
println!("mcp field: {}", mcp.field);
println!("mcp2 field: {}", mcp2.field);

prints ...

mcp field: 101
mcp2 field: 1

Application and Limitations

Copy

  • Copy is available only on types whose elements also have Copy.
  • Such elements then need to be the numeric types (i32, f64 etc), bool and char. So custom types that contain only basic data types.
#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
struct Copyable {
    field: i32,
}
  • Any field with a non-copyable type such as String or Vec cannot be made Copyable
// Copy cannot be derived as `f2: String` does not implement Copy
#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
struct NotCopyable2 {
    field: i32,
    f2: String
}
  • But custom types that have the Copy trait as fields work fine, like Copyable from above as a field:
#[derive(Copy, Clone)]
struct Copyable2 {
    field: i32,
    more: Copyable
}
  • Beyond this, Copy is not overloadable and can't be implemented in rust (without using unsafe presumably). It's really just a primitive of the language it seems (see source code for the Copy trait).

Clone

  • Like Copy, Clone relies on the struct's fields also implementing Clone.
  • A number of standard library types have implemented Clone (see list of implementors in the documentation), including the fundamental collections you'll find in chapter 8 of The Book: String, Vec, HashMaps and also arrays.
  • Thus the code below, which involves a more complex Struct with fields that are a String, array and Vec, compiles just fine.
  • With the clone() method, Clonable is now able to be duplicated allowing the original to be usable after being passed in to check_if_copied().
#[derive(Clone)]
struct Clonable {
    name: String,
    values: [f64; 3],
    data: Vec<i32>
}

let clonable = Clonable{
    name: "Sam".to_string(),
    values: [1.0, 2.0, 3.0],
    data: vec![111, 222]
};

// clonable is duplicated with the `.clone()` method
check_if_copied(clonable.clone());

// original still usable as it was never moved
println!("Name; {}", clonable.name);
  • But, unlike Copy, is overloadable, which means you can implemented Clone for your custom types however you want if necessary.
  • This would be jumping ahead a bit to Traits, but we could implement Clone for our struct above ourselves with something like the below:
struct Clonable {
    name: String,
    values: [f64; 3],
    data: Vec<i32>
}

// Just use each field's `.clone()` implementation, much like the default would do
impl Clone for Clonable {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self {
            name: self.name.clone(),
            values: self.values.clone(),
            data: self.data.clone()
        }
    }
}
  • Or we could see how Clone is implemented for Option:
impl<T> Clone for Option<T>
where
    T: Clone,
{
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        match self {
            Some(x) => Some(x.clone()),
            None => None,
        }
    }
}
  • Basically relies on the implementation of Clone for the inner value inside Some. Note the where clause that limits this to Option variables that contain values that have the Clone trait.

Deep or Shallow Duplication

  • In the case of Copy, duplication should always be "deep".
    • Which isn't saying much due to the simplicity of the types that can implement Copy.
  • In the case of Clone ... it depends!
    • As the implementations of Clone on the fields of a custom struct/enum are relied on, whether the duplication is deep or shallow depends entirely on those implementations.
    • As stated in the RFC quoted above, Clone is for complex data structures whose duplication is not trivial such that compromises around performance and duplication depth may need to be made.
    • A clue can be discerned from the signature of the implementation. For Option, above, the inner value was restricted to also having implemented Clone, as the value's .clone() method was relied on. Therefore, Option's is deep.
    • Similarly, the Clone implementation for Vec has the same restriction on its elements: impl<T, A> Clone for Vec<T, A> where T: Clone, (see source code), indicating that its implementation is at least one level deep.

Overall, this seemed a fundamental part of the language, and I found it weird that The Book didn't address it more specifically. There's nothing really surprising or difficult here, but the relative roles of Clone and Copy, or the "three step ladder" are important to appreciate I think.

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Relevant for @sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 's next stream next week as they're hitting smart pointers.

cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/16059115

Found this on Mastodon https://fosstodon.org/@dpom/112681955888465502 , and it is a very nice overview of the containers and their layout.

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Jayjader@jlai.lu to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

What?

I will be holding the fourteenth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

Last time we completed chapter 6 (enums & pattern matching). This time we will begin chapter 7 (Managing Growing Projects with Packages, Crates, and Modules).

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/7773753

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on this day (2023-06-24). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

Here's the recording: https://youtu.be/pUqVmPRLhNE

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

I will have on-screen:

  • the BU online version of The Book
  • a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
  • some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
  • the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the book, both reading aloud the literal text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

After Chs 5 and 6 (see the reading club post here), we get a capstone quiz that covers ownership along with struts and enums.

So, lets do the quiz together! If you've done it already, revisiting might still be very instructive! I certainly thought these questions were useful "revision".


I'll post a comment for each question with the answer, along with my own personal notes (and quotes from The Book if helpful), behind spoiler tags.

Feel free to try to answer in a comment before checking (if you dare). But the main point is to understand the point the question is making, so share any confusions/difficulties too, and of course any corrections of my comments/notes!.

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Finally, we can make our own types (or data structures)!!


This is supplementary/separate from the Twitch Streams (see sidebar for links), intended for discussion here on lemmy.

The idea being, now that both twitch streams have read Chapters 5 and 6, we can have a discussion here and those from the twitch streams can have a retrospective or re-cap on the topic.

This will be a regular occurrence for each discrete set of topics coming out of The Book as the twitch streams cover them


With Ch 4 on the borrow checker out of the way, chapters 5 & 6 feel like the "inflection point" ... the point where we're ready to actually start programming in rust.

Custom types, data structures, objects with methods, pattern matching, and even dipping into rust's traits system and it's quasi answer to class inheritance.

If you're comfortable enough with the borrow checker, you can really start to program with rust now!


I personally didn't think this content was difficult, though it prompts some interesting points and topics (which I'll mention in my own comment below).

  • Any thoughts, difficulties or confusions?
  • Any quizzes stump you?
  • Any major tips or rules of thumb you've taken away or generally have about using structs and enums?
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/17090253

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/17090149

Hi! I've created a CLI tool for downloading Rust web books (like The Rust Programming Language) as EPUB, so that you can easily read them on your e-book reader. The tool is heavily based on this gist and a lot of proompting.

Check it out here: https://github.com/mawkler/rust-book-to-epub

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Jayjader@jlai.lu to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

What?

I will be holding the thirteenth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

Last time we started chapter 6 (enums & pattern matching). We read through 6.1 and learned how to define enum variants in tuple or struct form. We also learned about the Option<T> enum that Rust provides us with. This time we'll begin section 6.2 and learn about the match control flow construct.

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/7532130

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-06-17). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

EDIT: here's the recording https://youtu.be/W1fjxCwtwfM

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

I will have on-screen:

  • the BU online version of The Book
  • a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
  • some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
  • the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the book, both reading aloud the literal text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

23
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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Jayjader@jlai.lu to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

What?

I will be holding the twelfth of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

Last time we wrapped up chapter 5 (structs). This session we'll be learning about enums by starting chapter 6.

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/7413233

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Monday (2023-06-10). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day and day-of-week as that one was.

EDIT: here's the recording https://youtu.be/eRMxhaJIOAg

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

I will have on-screen:

  • the BU online version of The Book
  • a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
  • some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
  • the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the book, both reading aloud the literal text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Jayjader@jlai.lu to c/learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

Stable internet connection re-acquired! To avoid waiting another full week, I'll be hosting the session today (approximately 6-7 hours after this post is created).

What?

I will be holding the eleventh of the secondary slot/sessions for the Reading Club, also on "The Book" ("The Rust Programming Language"). We are using the Brown University online edition (that has some added quizzes & interactive elements).

Last time, the book guided us through An Example Program Using Structs (section 2 of chapter 5). Today we'll be tackling the following section, "The Method Syntax" (5.3).

Previous session details and recording can be found in the following lemmy post: https://jlai.lu/post/6871662

Why?

This slot is primarily to offer an alternative to the main reading club's streams that caters to a different set of time zone preferences and/or availability.

(also, obviously, to follow up on the previous session)

When ?

Currently, I intend to start at 18:00 UTC+2 (aka 6pm Central European Time) on Tuesday (2023-06-04). If you were present for a previous session, then basically the same time-of-day ~~and day-of-week~~ as that one was. Exceptionally, today is not the same day-of-week as previously.

Recording of the session: https://youtu.be/wBYdDbADFLU

Please comment if you are interested in joining because you can't make the main sessions but would prefer a different start time (and include a time that works best for you in your comment!). Caveat: I live in central/western Europe; I can't myself cater to absolutely any preference.

How ?

The basic format is: I will be sharing my computer screen and voice through an internet live stream (hosted at https://www.twitch.tv/jayjader for now). The stream will simultaneously be recorded locally and uploaded afterwards to youtube (also, for now).

I will have on-screen:

  • the BU online version of The Book
  • a terminal session with the necessary tooling installed (notably rustup and through it cargo & "friends")
  • some form of visual aid (currently a digital whiteboard using www.excalidraw.com)
  • the live stream's chat

I will steadily progress through the book, both reading aloud the literal text and commenting occasionally on it. I will also perform any code writing and/or terminal commands as the text instructs us to.

People who either tune in to the live stream or watch/listen to the recording are encouraged to follow along with their own copy of the book.

I try to address any comments from live viewers in the twitch chat as soon as I am aware of them. If someone is having trouble understanding something, I will stop and try to help them get past it.

Who ?

You! (if you're interested). And, of course, me.

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A nice comment in a forum thread (extracted below, but also see the shorter more facetious version below that) about references and their lifetimes in structs. Here is a link to the full thread over on users.rust-lang.org

I feel like I needed to hear or read this, and I feel like this sort of clarification is not put front and centre enough in rust learning material (as others in the thread say too). "The Book" certainly doesn't seem interested in clarifying perspectives like this.


The Comment

Other languages use term "reference" for storing things "by reference" or just referencing any object anywhere in general. It's not like that in Rust.

What Rust calls "reference" is a much more specific thing, that is no so general-purpose. It has a narrower, restrictive usage. Rust references are more like read-only or write-exclusive locks. They make their target unmovable and immutable for entire duration of their existence. They can't exist on their own, only as a counterpart of an owned value.

References in structs also make the whole struct itself temporary, and everything that touches that struct becomes temporary and tied to the scope of the borrowed value that started it.

If these restrictions (that cause you fight with the borrow checker) aren't what you want to achieve, then you don't want temporary references.

99% of the time when you need to store something "by reference", Box (or Arc or String or PathBuf or Vec or some other owned type) is the right answer.

Note that &T and Box<T> have identical representation in memory — a pointer. They differ by ownership.

In Short

From here

You're not allowed to use references in structs until you think Rust is easy. They're the evil-hardmode of Rust that will ruin your day.

😉

Use Box or Arc to store things in structs "by reference". Temporary borrows don't do what you think they do.

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