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[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

because everyone wanted it after playing the older titles.

left off the best part, it's how you know they're full of shit. literally no one I know that loves BG3 played the first two

unless they're including dark alliance, which lmao

[-] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

literally no one I know that loves BG3 played the first two

I'll admit I got in at Icewind Dale and never played the originals. But BG1 & 2 were hella-popular titles in their day. Put Bioware on the map up there with Blizzard. OG Baldur's Gate sold more than two million copies after its release, nearly matching the sales of Diablo.

But then Lucian put out Divinity: Original Sin 1 & 2. DOS:2 sold 7 million copies, piggybacking on the Bioware formula for isometric turn-based adventure games. To say people weren't excited about the DOS guys doing a Baldur's Gate game would be equally insincere.

This was a match made in heaven. A studio that was clearly equipped to deliver a quality isometric turn based adventure game and a setting that was tailor made for that exact experience. The queerness was just icing on the cake. But even then, the "you didn't warn me there would be gender!" complaint is laughable, because D&D has been a queer game since the fucking 70s. The gender-bending druids, dopplegangers, and demigods, the items that change your gender, the various romantic and downright pornographic splats, and the multitude of fantastic romances go straight back to some of the original modules.

If you haven't noticed that D&D was gay, that Lucian was happy to explore gay themes, and that players were going to try to do this shit ad hoc regardless of the official story dynamic, that's entirely on your head.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

People were excited, don't get me wrong. But these two replies to my comment are case-in-point. Neither of you have played the first two.

[-] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

But these two replies to my comment are case-in-point.

Icewind Dale was a spin off of Baldur's Gate.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Sure. Still not BG1&2. I've played all the IE games for coming up on three decades now, but please tell me more about them.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Agreed, the first 2 are relics (not that that's a bad thing). Own them but not played them yet (played the OG gamecube dark alliance... pirated on the wii lol), my (sadly, chud) dad is into them.

I knew LGBT rep had been around for a while though (seen recced by some LGBT curators on steam even) so looked it up though- BG2 had (some) LGBT rep, and BG1 EE (a remake from like... 2012) had rep as well.. and the CRPG scene has been very inclusive for a long while now. And Larian, which has an extremely strong (IMO probs the best in the genre even before BG3) reputation, has been particularly so (and I feel like, alongside of course the mass popularization of D&D, on the gaming side just as much if not more interest would have come from that they were the studio reviving the legendary series).

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