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[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Laws, courts, and a strong democracy my dude.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The Intolerance Paradox posits the risk that these institutions are infiltrated by intolerant agents.

Florida has laws, courts, and an electoral system. None of those seem to be holding the fascists back. Many are being employed by fascists to legitimize their violence.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the USA had better laws, the news media would not be free from getting sued or fined for spreading lies. If the USA has a stronger democracy, where we didn't have to deal with this elector nonsense, then we'd have federal laws that prevent fascists from getting into power.

We don't/didn't have that, so now we get to hope that the fascists don't win.

The only way we get out of this is by charging some of these fascists with treason and putting them in jail.

I'm curious what your take is on using governmental violence against fascists? For example, throwing them in jail.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we’d have federal laws that prevent fascists from getting into power.

A country riddled with fascists isn't going to pass laws against themselves. You (paradoxically) need to get rid of the fascists first, before you get rid of the fascist policy.

That's why we couldn't have pass the civil rights amendments until after secession. And why we didn't pass the Equal Rights (for women) amendment at all.

now we get to hope that the fascists don’t win.

Unfortunately, we've embraced fascism in both parties as the donor elites have tacked rightward. Harris striking common cause with the Cheneys might as well be a stake through the heart of American liberalism.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, so you're accepting defeat?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't plan for victory if you don't admit defeat.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

What the heck does that mean? You do your best, every step of the way. If you don't have a democracy, do a revolution. If the people don't know how badly they're getting screwed, educate them. Being doomer is not useful. Keep trying to improve the situation.