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[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

RCV is just slightly better than FTP. Let’s go with the bests and support STAR now. If we do all RCV now, we can rage the system in the next 40 years due to people saying “but we just changed it!”

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Star is flawed too, it incentivises people who are voting for the underdog to not rank any other candidate or your own ballot could spoil your preferred candidate. If all thrid party voters voted to mathmatically optimize their candidates chance, Star voting wouldn't change anything for them. RCV is better if you're trying to actually engage thrid parties.

Star doesn't fix the 'spoiler effect' unless you decide not to give your preferred candidate the largest mathematical advantage your ballot can provide, and if you do want to ballot optimize, you should only rank one person, and then were right back to where we started.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

RCV in single member electorates is pretty meh, and yeah RCV in general has its issues. But saying it's "slightly better" than FPTP is a MASSIVE understatement.

Change begets change, don't be against changing to something much better, just because it isn't perfect.

we could do what maine is doing, i think it's either RCV or IRV. Whatever the difference is, if there is one.