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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net to c/diy@slrpnk.net

A few years ago I came across ultra-insulated high efficiency fridges, like this now discontinued SunFrost design.

Extra thick insulated walls are only part of the reason those are so efficient, but I figured, is it possible to at least get kinda close by adding extra insulation to the outside of a normal fridge? For many fridges, the answer is yes!

This old post from a 2012 eco-modding forum claims that, using just regular old styrofoam, they were able to cut down the energy use of their old energy-hog fridge from 274kWh per year down to 128kWh per year! (And they wrote a little guide on how they did it too).

Those sorta numbers kinda blew my mind. Not only is it possible to save more than half in yearly electricity costs, it also keeps an old fridge out of the landfill instead of being replaced with a modern, more efficient one. And bear in mind, that's just with styrofoam, which according to this handy little chart, has an R-Value of 4 per inch (High density EPS, i.e, Expanded Polystyrene, is what is usually referred to when we say styrofoam). Imagine what sort've numbers they could've got with proper insulating foam with an R-value of 10 or 13 per inch!

I was able to find another post on this topic over on reddit, which brings up the biggest downside of doing this modification: It's ugly.

I think that could be negated somewhat if you're creative and painted the foam (it'd probably look cool if you painted it white or black and sprayed a solarpunk logo with a stencil on it), but I suspect for most, this will be a dealbreaker for a main kitchen fridge (not to mention, you may not have enough clearance for the extra foam in your... Fridge slot?)

Still though, those power saving numbers are difficult to ignore, and I could see people going for this on secondary a garage fridge, like the dude in the second link did. It would have a dramatic effect in energy consumption if the ambient temperature around your fridge is usually pretty hot, as hotter outside temps dramatically increase energy useage.

Now you can't do this to any 'ol fridge or freezer. Some designs dissipate their heat through the metal skin of the fridge itself, and covering it with foam would quickly destroy it. But if your fridge has a visible condenser coil somewhere, either on the back of the fridge, or underneath, you're probably good to go as long as those coils remain uncovered and can get adequate airflow per their design specs.

I think this modification is probably best suited for older, less efficient fridges, where it'll give the most noticeable benefit in energy and cost savings. But if you did apply it to a modern high efficiency fridge, you could probably get near the efficiency of a factory-made ultra-insulated fridge (which currently go for a whopping $2,150!) for a fraction of the price.

EDIT: Found some more numbers in this video. Using 3/4" foam (less R-value), the guy in the vid achieved a 20% reduction in energy use. In comments, another person reported a 45% reduction in energy use after applying 1" foam.

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[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago

Very cool post (pun intended).

This got me thinking about the goal of this kind of insulation…

If it’s cost savings, what would be the timespan until the cost of the styrofoam is paid for by the energy savings? ( I have no idea what that type of styrofoam costs).

If the goal is environmental, how much energy savings would be needed to offset the footprint of the manufacture of the styrofoam and transport of the styrofoam to your location?

In either case, I’d have to assume the less efficient (and older) the fridge, the faster you’d make the extra insulation pay itself off.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ideally it'd be done with reclaimed materials, like the second guy who used old insulation from an RV.

But at least in my area from a local hardware store, I can buy 1.5 inch 4x8ft sheets of expanded polystyrene insulation for $20 per sheet. 3 sheets should be enough for most fridges (or 4, if the heat exchanger is underneath the fridge), so 60 to $80 for new materials.

Using this energy star savings calculator, it spits out this rough estimate of the yearly cost of a 1990's fridge:

If the foam decreases energy usage by 50%, that would mean a $115 savings within the first year, paying off the initial foam costs within 6 months of use.

According to that same calculator, this is the numbers they give regarding carbon emissions compared to using a new energy efficient fridge:

It's difficult to find the information of expanded polystyrene's carbon footprint, I think I found it here? Specifically this chart from that article:

The second column there can be ignored, since we're not trying to achieve R28, which since XPS foam is pretty low R value compared to other foam insulators would take a LOT of foam. So I guess the first column is the relevant one.

[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

Holy shit this is some #theydidthemath stuff.

6 months at paying full price for the foam is a ridiculously quick turnaround given the lifespan of a fridge (easily 5 years). Plus, you can probably reuse the prior fridge’s foam on the next fridge, so that makes it even better.

Why don’t people do this more often? If the gap in my current “fridge space” wasn’t so small already, I’d be tempted to go find some foam.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

I would guess that most people don't know, and as mentioned it's ugly and sadly it seems the majority of people care about aesthetics more than efficiency.

And also like you, I would do this but my fridge space is also definitely too small. I also think our fridge is new enough to be one of the metal dissipators

[-] quicksand@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

My only question is where is the outlet for the heat pump? If it goes out in the front then okay, but if it's pumping out hot air into a now insulated area that might be a problem

[-] sinkingship@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know where you live. But where I live, styrofoam costs next to nothing. In fact, you get it for free, if you don't mind looking through another man's trash. You can also probably get some for free if you ask a company, that gets stuff sent, that need cooling. Like a supermarket.

For environment: styrofoam is a kind of plastic, so there is that. On the plus side, it's quite little plastic inflated with air.

I assume it's way better than getting a replacement fridge, especially considering the electronics and maybe the coolant gas (I don't know if that's still an issue).

I wouldn't be surprised if the electricity saved alone offsets the environment damage (assuming not fully green power used to run the fridge).

[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

Excellent point about getting styrofoam for free (I hadn’t even thought of that). With that in mind, the only cost would be for time spent gathering the foam and then covering the fridge (I could probably do this in less than an hour, tbh).

Thanks for this comment!

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