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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (19 children)

I see. “Socialism” will be able to replace all fossil fuel-powered vehicles: cars, trucks, planes, ships AND replace all of the world’s fossil fuel power plants in the world in five years. I guess by “socialism,” you mean “magic.”

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Probably not, but it will be able to prioritize things differently. Under socialism it doesn't matter if it is profitable to build high-speed rail, or profitable to run it thereafter, the point isn't to make money, the point is to transport people.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

So we have time to switch to socialism and replace all fossil fuel transport with high speed rail in enough time to stop our civilization from collapsing due to climate change? Because I doubt it.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Maybe not. But we have to options: Socialism or Barbarism. Continuing with Capitalism is going to lead to a worse outcome, going with Socialism and working to halt climate change will result in a better outcome. Not a great one, not undoing everything in 5 years, but still a better outcome.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

The chances of socialism over barbarism are quite slim given the long history of humanity.

On the other hand, the other guy thinks that you can replace coal plants "as needed," so at least you have a realistic outlook.

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